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I memorized all the 2 digit squares squared . now I in the process of memorizing the multiplication table of 2 digit numbers (1199) and after it I will want to memorize the the 3 digit squares, and then the 4 digit squares, after it, I will not memorize but be able to do very fast 58 digit squared, because 1^2+2ab+b^2, for 8 digits I will do the first 4 digit squares add 8 zeros, then the first 4 digits times the last 4 digits times 2 and add 4 zeros, and then the last 4 digits without zeros, but its long process to memorize all, I have good memory from birth, but trained memory I didn't succeeded to develop yet, and I am on this from april, you have advices ? I saw shimi atias memorize 27 digits in 27 seconds, and I remember all the peg words 1100, and pull them fast from the memory, the problem with me is that the only thing I don't do fast is the visualization , I don't visualize or imagine fast enough any 24 objects, so its take me more time, I am not interested in do what shimi do with the 27 digits in 27 seconds, but I think that if I will be able to visualize clear enough and fast enough, then I will be able to memorize the multiplication and squares I want a lot faster, I can do it slower, but I don't want it to take years, thanks, amit

Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4735 Posts 
You probably want to learn a mnemonic peg system.
Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." 
saxonia Regular user 171 Posts 
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On May 7, 2023, bitnox wrote: This is not something that should be memorized. Train to calculate it quickly instead. Honestly, it's less difficult! 
Michael Regular user 125 Posts 
The book, "Dead Reckoning: Calculating Without Instruments" can be found on Amazon and will help with some of the stated calculations. The website, https://www.ludism.org/mentat/HomePage has some good memory systems.
Regards, Barry 
bitnox New user 17 Posts 
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On May 26, 2023, Michael wrote: thanks, I will check the memory system on this 
bitnox New user 17 Posts 
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On May 22, 2023, saxonia wrote: depend on what is your goal, on speed memory win, my record is to tell 38 2 digit squares in 30 seconds, write 36 2 digit squares in 30 seconds, type 21 2 digit squares in 30 seconds, and tell the first 14 squares , 9 1 digit squares and 5 2 digit squares , 30 digits in 4 seconds, I don't think this speed is possible with calculation, second of all, let's say I will go to level that I can calculate it, its sound strange : someone that can calculate but don't remember the answers, I think the small things have to memorize, and the big things have to calculate and get aids from the small things, its also depend on the person, I have an excelent born memory, I don't have a trained memory, but its look like a trained one because its very good born, 
bitnox New user 17 Posts 
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On Jun 2, 2023, bitnox wrote: about the calculation book, read the comment before, I explain why no I don't need to calculat, first to memorize many, then to calculated and use the aids of the facts I memorized 
FrankFindley Inner circle 1078 Posts 
Interesting challenge you have embarked on.
It is very hard to present squares above six digits because calculators run out of digits on their displays. And that is how this type of mental math feat is typically presented, as a time challenge vs. someone with a calculator. Because you have already memorized the squares of two digits, you are already set to present a fantastic, instantaneous six digit square as a grand finale. All it takes is a little trickery. Here is my method. Use a transparent f______ b__. In one side have pieces of folded paper with two digit combinations (that is 10 to 99). In the other have multiple slips all with 00 on them. Have three different spectators each pick a slip. Spectator 1 and 3 choose from the 10 to 99 side. Spectator 2 chooses 00. Then have them each write their digits in order on a whiteboard without you and a fourth spectator seeing it. The fourth spectator has a calculator and is going to race you. You will be able to write out the square immediately upon seeing the six digit number they constructed. The number they create will be in the form of AB00CD. This is a simplified case for six digit squaring. It becomes AB^2 & 2*AB*CD & CD^2 where the '&' symbol represents a concatenation. For example, say the constructed number is 180065, then: 18^2 = 324 2*18*65 = 2340 65^2 = 4225 so the square is: 324 & 2340 & 4225 = 32,423,404,225 With this method, you will be able to begin writing the answer instantaneously and will probably have the result on the board before the person has it keyed into their calculator. They then will catch up to you and confirm you have the correct answer. Just by mixing in this little bit of additional magic method, you can start performing this right now. Then when you achieve your goal of memorizing the 3+ digit squares, you can drop the added subterfuge. However, I doubt even with the memorization of the longer squares that you will be able to do it as quickly as the method just described. The addition of the numbers in the 'legit' way takes much longer than the concatenation. So the method described likely produces better theater. In any case, starting to perform with this method will build up your calculation speed as you have to do the 2*AB*CD bit. Depending on how you do mental calculations, this may be best done in two parts: 2*AB=2AB and 2AB*CD. Well, if nothing else, I hope this provides a different perspective on performing these larger squares calculations. 
bitnox New user 17 Posts 
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On Jun 3, 2023, FrankFindley wrote: Thank you for the advice. 
saxonia Regular user 171 Posts 
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On Jun 2, 2023, bitnox wrote: Well, I happen to be the organizer of the Mental Calculation World Cup, and I can tell you that it IS possible to calculate so quickly (just have a look at "multiplication" at https://www.recordholders.org/en/list/mentalcalculationrankings.html). Please do not get me wrong  I absolutely agree that it is important to know a lot of calculation results by heart. But ideally this knowledge should come from repeated practice, not from learning and mnemotechnics. So first, figure out where shortcuts (binomial theorem, Vedic math sutras, etc.) can be helpful  and regard the need to learn a twodigit multiplication as the last option. I can also strongly recommend Doerfler's book as well as The Mental Calculators' Handbook (https://amzn.to/3N8SRfw). 
bitnox New user 17 Posts 
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On Jun 3, 2023, saxonia wrote: thanks 
FrankFindley Inner circle 1078 Posts 
It really is the addition of the product parts which ramps up the difficulty. Just remembering the product parts is a challenge. That's where the memory mnemonics can come in handy. Watching an experienced mathemagic performer like Arthur Benjamin talk through it is really something to behold.

bitnox New user 17 Posts 
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On Jun 5, 2023, FrankFindley wrote: thanks 
bitnox New user 17 Posts 
Hello, in thuesday I moved from the 2 digit multiplication table to the 3 digit squares, I every day add 25 so I in 175, 40 days to 999 (36 because the 100 perfect from long time ago), and 400 days to all 4 digit squares, you said I remember the 4 digit you would like to see, so in 400 days, I took video every day of the progress, today 175, yesterday 149, before 125

bitnox New user 17 Posts 
By the way, its easier to me without mnemonics and tricks, because then the recall faster

bitnox New user 17 Posts 
I added every day 25 squares, but now that in friday I 200, its more difficult to recall, so I until now that now good I just the 200, I decided because of this and because I in cyber course, just in saturdays to add 25, so I just update you that I will finish later then I thought

bitnox New user 17 Posts 
I thought about it, and the first 100, after remember all to a level of knowing perfect was 3 months reviews, so indeed in saturdays 25 , but after 100 (4 saturdays) 3 months review

bitnox New user 17 Posts 
I will stop until the 20.02.2024 because I want to give my all to the cyber course, after it I will continue

bitnox New user 17 Posts 
Better both

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