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disgruntledpuffin Special user i have nothing to say about my 543 Posts 
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Kaymar have put out a clever prediction effect by the (in my opinion) criminally underrated Stephen Tucker. I really like way this method is structured. I doubt it’ll fool many magicians but considering that it’s a 100% free choice and the deck itself is ungaffed and genuinely shuffled, I could see myself doing this. Seems very practical.
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Papa Legba Special user home-an unremarkable spiral arm of an insignificant galaxy 757 Posts
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Is the wallet essential to the working or will any wallet do?
Use the FORCE Luke.
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disgruntledpuffin Special user i have nothing to say about my 543 Posts
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If gold corners aren’t to your tastes, I suspect you could switch the wallet for any two sided credit card holder, as long as the cards fit. Being able to place the prediction on one side and the selection on the other is a requirement of the method, so a folding wallet wouldn’t be suitable.
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wulfiesmith Inner circle Beverley, UK 1362 Posts
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FRENZY by Stephen Tucker and Kaymar Magic
An old thread, I know. But I have just come across this. I cannot find a "review" of this effect anywhere on the internet. It seems to have evolved from "WoWallet" https://tricksupply.com/product/the-wowa......-estate/ "Frenzy" https://tricksupply.com/product/the-wowa......-estate/ "Sorry Not Sorry" https://www.kaymarmagic.com/products/sor......n-tucker I have to ask myself ... if a special wallet isn't necessary, then how is it marketed in different ways". I am intrigued. I have posted you "disgruntledpuffin" ... WulfieSmith |
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Wravyn Inner circle 4225 Posts
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On Feb 24, 2026, wulfiesmith wrote: Perhaps expected sales were not met for the tricks which incorporated the wallet, which in turn lead to an inventory of excess wallets? |
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disgruntledpuffin Special user i have nothing to say about my 543 Posts
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wulfiesmith Inner circle Beverley, UK 1362 Posts
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Hi Wravyn...
like your thinking ... if you're right, then it's a shame I can't buy the Frenzy effect without the "unnecessary?" wallet. But if the wallet IS necessary, then it's a very versatile item. |
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disgruntledpuffin Special user i have nothing to say about my 543 Posts
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On Feb 24, 2026, wulfiesmith wrote: So to answer your questions: both wallets are "ordinary" in the sense that they aren't "gaffed" - they don't do anything secret. If they were examined when empty there would be nothing hidden for anyone to discover. However, they were designed specifically for magic tricks, and are identical on both sides which isn't necessarily a universal characteristic of normal wallets. With that said, these days most people carry card holders rather than full wallets, so both wallets are a lot closer to "normal" than they were when Stephen first released them. The Frenzy wallet is smaller and has one slot per side. The WoWallet is larger and has multiple slots per side. You can do the Frenzy routine with the WoWallet but you cannot do all of the WoWallet routines with the Frenzy wallet. "Sorry not Sorry" is a routine of Liam's that is essentially a version of Max Maven's unpublished (and possibly mythical) "Apologetica" plot. Liam has loved this plot for over 20 years and has many ideas for it. "Sorry not Sorry" is one of those ideas and uses the WoWallet as part of the method. The reason you have found them for sale in different places is that they have both been on the market before. Now, Kaymar owns the exclusive rights. Hope this helps! Jack |
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tophatter Inner circle connecticut 3595 Posts
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I have a Wallet exactly like this the effect is called "The Same Card By Wayne Dobson" Prediction, I never used it gonna go dig this up !
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 13252 Posts
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I just got this jpv wallet. It's same functions of the wow. There's a very smart hidden i##x. Allows the prediction to come out of the visible envelope.
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 13252 Posts
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Not so sure how true this is haha
"Easy to do! No difficult moves or sleight of hand! No forces! The spectator freely shuffles, and removes any card!" I guess this if for magicians who are not "in the know" |
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disgruntledpuffin Special user i have nothing to say about my 543 Posts
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On Mar 3, 2026, John C wrote: Which bit do you not think is true? |
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J M Talbot Inner circle 3153 Posts
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I have the original WOW wallet in leather and the later Sorry not Sorry version. Both are the same design and work well.. the original is a bit nicer made. I have a specific routine I use it for. For me it looks like an old style ID case and I use it to hold my Father’s army ID and picture from WW2 that end up predicting an outcome. A bit of thought should be given to what it is, as it is a bit unusual looking in terms of an actual wallet. Set in a drawer for a long time. But for this routine was the perfect solution… that’s why I never get rid of anything
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 13252 Posts
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On Mar 3, 2026, disgruntledpuffin wrote: and removes any card!" In their mind perhaps. |
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Fire Starter Inner circle 4956 Posts
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MMMM the ANY Card chosen?, Racking my Brain on that one, got to say. That ole saying, sounds too good to be true.
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disgruntledpuffin Special user i have nothing to say about my 543 Posts
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Well, that IS true. They have freedom to remove any card at all from the shuffled, facedown deck. After that, the method happens.
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 13252 Posts
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Hmmmmm
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mindmagic Inner circle London 1885 Posts
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I used to do this in the sixties with a Tenyo card box. More recently I have done it with a THE and a USD.
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wulfiesmith Inner circle Beverley, UK 1362 Posts
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Wish I could find the routine "Frenzy" by Stephen Tucker and Kaymar Magic to buy.
Cannot find it anywhere on the net ... |
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influentialist Special user 502 Posts
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On Apr 4, 2026, wulfiesmith wrote: Seems to be in stock at Big Blind Media: https://bigblindmedia.com/products/frenz......e&_v=1.0 |
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