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Bradacal
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Hey where can I get some magic stuff (eg. tricks etc) to sell after shows. I need it at a low price of course. Any thoughts
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This has been discussed many many times here on the board. I suggest you run a search for past posts.
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Here's one, there are many more they have a $150.00 minimum:

Robbins D & CO Inc Magic
70 Washington Street, Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 625-1804

Hope this helps.

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Do not expect cheerful service from Robbins. Miserable bunch.They will have what you need though.
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Also try out dollar stores in your area. Often times you can find some really nice stuff there.

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Magic Grandpa Here:

I 2nd what cardtricks says about Robbins. The most miserable people I have ever spoken with on the phone. I got into a shouting match with that rude chick last time I ordered. By the way, the've up'ed the minimum to $200.00. They are another company stuck in the stone age of customer service.

Buy slum items from Rhode Island Novelty. Much better company and only $50.00 minimum. I buy my dog poo-poo, disappearing ink, fortune fish, finger traps, black tooth gum, and wire puzzles from them.

I put em all together and sell the "magic kit". I do get a few complaints about the dog poo-poo, but I love this classic and keep it in for laughs.
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Ahh another man after my own heart. The dog poo poo has always been one of my favorites. I haven't carried it for a while though as I can't get them to pay the markup I am used to on my merchandise. They'll pay $1 but not $2 for it. Once I pay the rate on it plus shipping it just isn't worth it at $1.

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On 2004-07-15 10:34, Magic Grandpa wrote:
I buy my dog poo-poo, disappearing ink, fortune fish, finger traps, black tooth gum, and wire puzzles from them.

I put em all together and sell the "magic kit". I do get a few complaints about the dog poo-poo, but I love this classic and keep it in for laughs.


It sounds like you are selling a kit of gags and practical jokes, not a magic kit with magic tricks. Do you ever get customers who complain about the misleading title?

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Magic Grandpa Here:

Donald, yes I do get complaints for that exact reason. Most of the time, the rubes come around when I explain to them that this is fun stuff and it is "magical" because people have a fun time. I know, it's lame but you would not believe how many gross of this stuff I bought to bring down my cost. I've honestly never had anyone ask for a refund.
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I think I have mentioned this on another thread. If you are getting complaints, why do you continue to do it that way? Is it because you think their complaints are without merit? Is it just because you have lots of the stuff to clear out of stock?

Just curious. For me, some complaints would seem like a good reason to change a business practice or policy.

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Donald,

short term gain is an illusion...it makes sense to me that you wouldn't continue to do something that your customer (can you say repeat bookings?) might object to
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I think that there is a distinction between magic tricks and practical jokes. In a kit I labeled as a magic kit, I would not include practical jokes.

Perhaps I might include a novelty toy, like a fortune fish or a finger trap. Not sure on that issue, but I know I personally wouldn't call some of those items in your kit "magic tricks".

We have a local trick and joke shop, but the magic tricks are in a different display case from the practical jokes. Do you see magic tricks, practical jokes, and novelty toys as all the same thing, Magic Grandpa?

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I think you will find that MagicGrandpa is vending and this is not back of room sales after a show. There is a major difference in what standard you have to maintain.

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I agree with Donald. You could stop the complaints simply by changing the name from 'magic kit' to 'practical joke kit', or 'joke kit'.
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How do you package these kits?
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I agree with Donald 100%. If your getting complaints, then why are you continuing doing it that way? Any complaint to me is 1 complaint TOO MANY.

In our line of work, reputation and respect should be everything. You want happy customers not those who think you ripped them off going around giving you a bad name.

If I get a complaint on anything, that is a flashing red light for me to reevaluate stuff and reowrk it so that I do not get the complaint again.

I think calling it a magic kit is very misleading. Parents would get a magic kit for a child but may not get a practical joke kit. They are different.

Parents may feel that magic can encourage the child to learn a fun hobby and give them good speaking skills. On the other hand they may feel practical jokes are just a way to get the kid in trouble. The parents have the right to know what exactly it is they are buying.

In regards to packaging the kits, you can purchase small boxes and package them yourself. OR, you can package them into nice clear bags and then make a header design that folds over the top and gets stapled.

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Magic Grandpa Here:

The only complaints I get are about the dog poo-poo. Some moms think it's not appropriate to give the littles that particular gag. I get way more compliments like, "Oh yeah. I remember that from my childhood. Oh, it's a great gag!" So I really dismiss the complaints as over-sensitive types.

This magic/gag kit has been working for me for a long time. This is a business deal for me, not missionary work. So, I'm going to maximize my profits, even if I have to fudge a bit on the "magic kit".

No harm. No foul. I say as long as no one is getting hurt, kids are smiling, and I'm making a tidy profit...no reason to change.
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Too me, any complaint is one complaint to many. I also just do not like the idea of dishonest selling. This is just my own humble opinion.

I am in the business to make a profit but NOT at the expense of a child or parent. I am a solutions provider and I build a strong reputation in my market by building lasting relationships.

Why would I want to get a bad reputation just because I am not 100% honest in the things I sell? Be honest and call it a practical joke kit or a gag kit. This way they all know what it is and there is not lying about it. If people want it, they will still pay the money. Chances are it will not effect your sales and you won't have people frustrated or angry with you.

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Magic Grandpa -

Is your "magic kit" in a box, so they can't see the contents before buying? Using a clear bag might eliminate complaints, unless you are getting complaints before they buy. In that case, why would they buy it?

Do you have a list of contents on the packaging? That could also solve some of your complaint problems.

Or, simply do the right thing and call it what it is. Smile

I don't understand how this is "No harm, no foul" if people are complaining. Perhaps you have never been asked for a refund because customers didn't know they could. Some people don't ask, even though they might want one.

It is implied or stated with many magic tricks there is no refund because of "secrets involved", but the only secret you are selling is that the contents of your magic kit are not magic tricks!

It is also a little disappointing that you consider your customers to be "rubes".

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My customers are GOLD to me. Without them I am nothing. I treat every single customer as a long lasting relationship. It is them who makes me or breaks me. Why would I want to damage a relationship by not being 100% honesy with them.

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