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Daniel Ulzen.jpg "View Profile") Special user Berlin/Germany 520 Posts 
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So far, unfortunately, there are no answers in this thread to the question of how much it costs to produce 10,000 or 100,000 "normal" poker card decks. I am interested in this question because maybe it would be possible, for example, to include the Rainbow Deck or the Cheek to Cheek deck (two great and easy to perform magic tricks) in a magic box/magic set for beginners ... if the production costs for a poker card deck are not too high.
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Frosty.jpg "View Profile") Loyal user Texas 244 Posts
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I've been pitching these decks for years now at "only" 10 bucks.. and no kicker.
Yes! That word "only" must be in your pitch prior to mentioning the price.. They easily sell nowadays for $10. Trust me, Don't sell'em for any less.. |
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Frosty Loyal user Texas 244 Posts
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I won't share my spiel but I clearly tell the marks you can go to a magic shop and just about any magic trick you buy will cost you 30 dollars or more but here today we sell these cards for "only" 10 bucks etc..
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3554 Posts
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On Jan 30, 2024, Dannydoyle wrote: At the store? No. They're at a bit of a premium in the store. The $5 price point I mentioned would be for pitching at a fair or some venue like that. Thinking about it now, the pitch would probably go "7 for the deck and 4 for the 2 card monte, but I'll sell them both to you for 10" Also, it's weird that people are saying "Oh .88 can't be right!" when the link to King Magic is right there... If you want to know the details (shipping, volume discounts ETC) you have to set up a dealer account with them. Then you'll KNOW the facts instead of just idly speculating about them...
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21560 Posts
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Thank you for the response. I thought the store would be more of a premium.
I think you’re right about setting up an account and finding out for themselves. Unfortunately here the method is to have an opinion and just pass it off as fact. Facts themselves, no matter how easily accessible, have become meaningless. Very sad indeed.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3204 Posts
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True they are .88 Cents when you buy in large bulks. But I don’t know if that includes shipping from China, it’s not likely its free. Nobody here seems to know, but I’ll know soon oh.
Tom
The Daycare Magician Book
https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/amazekids/the-daycare-magician/ My Blog - https://boleware.blogspot.com/ |
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3554 Posts
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I wouldn't even consider buying from a vendor like this for quantities of under 2-5k. And, given that these cards are a "known quality", that makes them all the more valuable to me.
Just saw a post on another site where a well known magician bought a lot of custom cards and they came misprinted... BADLY! I don't know the relationship he has with that particular vendor, but his post implied that he was going to have to eat that entire cost! The "pricce of doing business" when there are so many unknown qualities? Sounds awful to me.
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3204 Posts
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Gaddy, I think you right. All good deals are not good for all.
Tom
The Daycare Magician Book
https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/amazekids/the-daycare-magician/ My Blog - https://boleware.blogspot.com/ |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21560 Posts
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On Feb 2, 2024, gaddy wrote: Yea it always comes to context and how much you’re willing to buy. Using an unknown is a huge risk.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Daniel Ulzen Special user Berlin/Germany 520 Posts
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Just saw: Kingmagic sells a Marked Deck for $0.68 (link below). If this deck is of the same quality as their Svengali deck, that would indicate that Kingmagic can produce poker decks very cheaply in China. It seems no one here seems to know or want to write what it currently costs to produce poker decks in the US or Europe.
https://www.kingmagic.com/index.php?main......_id=1082 |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21560 Posts
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In the US or Europe?
It is entirely possible this is much too broad a question to actually answer. As Gaddy said just sign up for an account and they will tell you instantly. Why ask here and then post broad questions and apparently blame us for not being able to answer? That seems a bit harsh on us. How could we answer a question about quantity, and shipping cost across the US and Europe? If you want one deck shipped to Spain the cost will be a bit different than 5,000 decks shipped to New York. Narrow you scope for us, or better yet for them and you can have an exact answer. All we can do is guess.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3204 Posts
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Daniel, I don’t think anyone here in the US could, or would try to compete with China on the price. It’s much easier to just buy from China. I was able to open an account and when you add the ship cost the price doubles. 12 Gr of the .88 cards would cost me $1,520. plus $1,778. shipping = $3298. Still not a bad price for a retailer. But it's much easier and safer for somebody like me to buy from Robbins and past the extra cost on the consumer.
Tom
The Daycare Magician Book
https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/amazekids/the-daycare-magician/ My Blog - https://boleware.blogspot.com/ |
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Daniel Ulzen Special user Berlin/Germany 520 Posts
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Thanks for the answers!
I am simply interested for a project that I have in mind how much it costs to produce 100,000 poker card decks in the USA or Europe, for example. In the quality in which card decks are sold in one-euro/dollar stores. But this is just an attempt to get this information. If nobody knows that, that's okay too. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21560 Posts
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Why not ask suppliers themselves?
Wouldn’t that be the best source for information?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18151 Posts
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So not a single one of you ordered a single deck?
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Fedora Special user Arizona, usa 819 Posts
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I did, besides the kingmagic which was reviewed earlier, I recently came in possession
of a Rhode Island deck. the one that looks like hundred-dollar bills, it's about as terrible as you would expect. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18151 Posts
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On May 4, 2024, Fedora wrote: Are these the super thin ones? 
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Fedora Special user Arizona, usa 819 Posts
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Yes.
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3204 Posts
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Keep in mind, Pitchmen don’t usually sell what magicians consider good playing cards. That’s not a bad thing, just a fact.
Tom
The Daycare Magician Book
https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/amazekids/the-daycare-magician/ My Blog - https://boleware.blogspot.com/ |
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Fedora Special user Arizona, usa 819 Posts
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On May 4, 2024, Fedora wrote: I just received a dozen decks from Oriental Trading, they also make decks that look like hundred-dollar bills. These are pretty decent quality at $9 a dozen, currently with free shipping. They don't spread well but are still pretty good at the price point. https://www.orientaltrading.com/100-bill......ch=false |
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