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Michael238 Inner circle 1192 Posts |
Where can I find plans to build a tip over box?
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Paul Arthur Regular user 196 Posts |
The Mark Wilson course book has a nice description/illustration.
Otherwise, you might look in the Paul Osborne compilation books. Don't remember which volume, though. You can also buy the single Osborne plan here... http://www.magiclegends.com/paulosbornemagicillusion.html |
Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
Also on Osborne's site directly: http://www.osborneillusionsystems.com/
Click on plans, then Tip Trunk. He has a stylized design. BTW, another illusion you might want to look at instead might be Paul Osborne's version of The Chests of Mystery. - Donald. I forgot to mention that when building any illusion, make a cardboard mock-up first, to make sure it fits people and is the correct size, before cutting wood. You may already know this. - Donald.
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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A Birthday Magician Regular user 191 Posts |
Tip Over Box. With the information given in the Mark Wilson book on tip over trunk design there is no way the design can function correctly..it just does not work. Anyone built one using that concept who can help/advise
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Ray Pierce Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2607 Posts |
There are very few "Illusion Plans" I've ever seen that didn't require you to be a very clever builder with a lot of creativity and magical knowledge. I would have to look up the MW plans in the book but basically for a tip over, the dimensions are very specific and more importantly relative to the shape. The main body MUST stay square so it helps to have at least a 2" lip around the bottom to keep it rigid. The masking pieces aren't as important unless you have really bad sight lines and then the kind of give it away for me anyway. You can get away with just the hinge and a soft handle at the top for the assistant to hold on to. This always seemed to give it a more lifelike look when showing the inside. Hopefully that will make sense without giving away too much publicly.
Ray Pierce
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
The tip over principle is fine if you are working on a STAGE. For most birthday parties, with rather casual seating, it's not practical.
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Julie Inner circle 3936 Posts |
You could use a double trunk approach (second trunk is tipped over while still inside the larger outer trunk); no worrisome bad angles, but that's a lot of apparatus...
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Yes, I remember Harry Blackstone Sr, AND Jr doing that! I can't describe his routine, 'cuz it would tip an important principle.
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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bobmag56 New user 61 Posts |
A table size tip-over was made by Thayer and Owen. One version was made in a pirate's box design. Another earlier version and later made by Okito used 2 hinged side panels. Thus, when tiped over, the inside can be seen empty and the 2 opened side panels minimize the angle problem.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
HA! interesting! I saw Mr B's tip over TRUNK, a half dozen times, and, Clem MAGRUM'S two different boxes, many times! It held a humongous load! His later one was about 3 x larger. It took about 10 minutes to produce all the stuff!
Okito's side panel idea would work just fine. I only met him when he was long retired, but still willing to share his ideas.
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