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I am familiar with the Zombie Ball, but just discovered the Astrosphere ball today while searching through some online dealers. How is it different from the Zombie, other than the fact that it can float in front of the cloth.? Which looks better from a spectator's point of view(zombie or Astrosphere)? How hard is it to perform? If the Astrosphere is a great trick, what's the best one to get for my bucks? Please tell me all the info that's possible (without giving away the secret of course :o) ). I would appreciate it very much.

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The Astrophere is limited in its movements but is a refreshing change from the Zombie.

The setup is fairly simple, but it would make a good opening effect.

Be careful how you store the ball as you may find yourself spending hours on the setup (as I once did on a ship when a rough sea knocked the ball to the floor whilst packing away!).

I have and do work with both the Zombie and Astrophere and for "impromptuness" and ease of movement I have to say I prefer the zombie. The angles and lighting are also better suited to many more situations than the Astrophere. In fact the only advantage above the zombie is that the ball can float in, behind and in front of the cloth, as well as away from the cloth.

Uhmm... ok so I am undecided!
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How light sensitive is it? What is the minimum distance you can be from the audience?
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Astrosphere used to be one of my main effects. I have learned to love it as much as the Zombie.

Over the years, I've modified it, using a different "material" to float it with. I've detached it from the anchor points (factory setup), and routined it based on the IT Manual, by Ralph Wichmann, using the one-point hookup...that's as far as I can go here.

I've posted many more details in Secret Sessions in the Banquet Room, so do a search. You may find some useful info there. Do a search under my name, and you'll find my posts.

I will usually do the Astrosphere after I've already shown someone the Zombie, and it becomes even MORE baffling!

Cheers!

Doug
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What's the best one to get for a beginner?
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Well Yanyak,

I've spent some time researching, and have come up with this site...

http://www.themagicwarehouse.com/stage.html

I cannot find a better deal. Plus this is a fine establishment, with a reputation as being one of the most popular on-line shops.

Again, I don't use it as it comes out of the box. I've got MUCH more freedom of movement now with the One-Point. You IT guys know what I mean. Plus, there is a MUCH better gimmick, but you have to find the right brand name material. PM me for more info, and let me know you have a knowledge of IT.

Doug
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Yanyak, I think the zombie ball is much more powerful. If you see Tommy Wonder performing the trick you'll understand. Zombie ball has more movements, and is more mysterious too. The "hide and show" game that the ball do with the foulard is the great thing in this trick.

(Sorry about my English.)
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Well, I recently purchased the mini Astroshpere off eBay. It was only $8 so I decided, why not? Personally, I love it. I think it's a great concept. You guys are right that it doesn't have much freedom. That's the only bad thing about this effect. I've been playing around with it for some time and I feel it's definitely worth getting, especially if you like floating effects. It does take some practice and getting used to. I wish it could float above the cloth (I'm sure it can; I just haven't figured it out yet). It really seems to come to life when done correctly. A+ product.


Darko, I do like the hide and seek effect with the zombie. That is one thing the Astrosphere doesn't do. If it could do that, that would be one heck of an illusion.

Doug, where can I get this IT manual by Ralph Wichmann? I am definitely open to new ideas for this mini effect.
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Hello, I'm from Venezuela and I bought the Astrosphere just this week. I'm interested in all the suggestions you could give for ots use.
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The mini works, I have that, but the big silver one is my favorite.

The Wichmann book is found Here!

Best $20 you'll ever spend, if you're into IT. Use the One-Point hookup for the Astrosphere. Don't use it as it is...unhook all that factory setup stuff, and use the One-Point and the cloth (pg 15-20)...you'll never look at Astrosphere the same way...

Doug
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Thanks Doug. I will definitly look into it. I do a lot of IT work, and haven't seen this book before. I've created several effects with IT that I haven't seen marketed, so I'm always looking for Books, videos, tricks etc..on the subject.
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My High School is having its talent show in February, which gives me plenty of time to plan ahead. I need to fill two, at least three minute-slots. I will be doing one act in which I talk (Lee Earle's Dream Test) and was thinking about doing an illusion that doesn't require talking, but perhaps a little music played to it (Zombie illusion).

The music I have brings a somewhat mystical tone, but besides the Zombie illusion, what other tricks are there to bring the same feeling, and doesn't require speaking?

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The Zombie is very difficult to do well.
It takes a lot of practice and acting ability.
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Exactly Daniel! Smile

BOTH are illusions that require choreography, and CONSTANT practice. The idea is to "react" to the ball, and the ball "reacts" to you...independant entities! Glad to see this thread still active!

Doug
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Expecialy pantomime, some dancing moves and so on...
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On 2004-07-30 13:39, yanyak5 wrote:
Well, I recently purchased the mini Astroshpere off eBay. It was only $8 so I decided, why not? I wish it could float above the cloth (I'm sure it can; I just haven't figured it out yet).


I too bought the mini astroshere from eBay - it just arrived today! I was just messing around, trying it out, and found that if you have your arms stretched in front of you so the ball is at the top, you can then bring your hands together slightly, leaving a sort of 'U' shape in the top of the cloth, and the ball hangs seemingly 'above' the cloth. I don't know if that's a standard move or not, this being my first try at this effect, but I hope it helps you with yours.

Jon
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That's as the exact thing I was going to say.
I used to have one years ago and I used to flick it behind the cloth and do it like that then the floating up my jacket like Jon mentioned.
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I am about to buy one. I have used a zombie for years. I feel that it doesn't matter how the trick is done but how you perform it, just like all magic. It has taken me years to find my style of performing the floating ball. My performance style is a little more modern, with a hip-hop/pop-punk feel to it.

If you want to see a beautiful routine, besides Tommy Wonder, check out Mark Desouzas Floating Rose routine. I am sure I didn't spell his name correct, but you should be able to find it.
Funny Magic Dude,
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People are going crazy for The Thing from Bill Abbott....It looks like it has some strong advantages over the above mentioned items...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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I like the astro-sphere. The reason being is the cloth is almost transparent! It just looks better in my opinion. ask yourself a question. if you could float something behind a cloth, any object, would you rather float it behind a nearly transparent cloth, or a cloth they cant see behind?
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