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What revelations do you do when jazzing with a memorized deck and how many do you do? How many do you think is too much? I usually do about four revelations with it.

The first one I control either to the top or bottom. If it's on the bottom I do the pop-out move. If it's on the top, then I do a double lift and turnover and change it into the named card.

The next one, I control the named card to the top and do the Lennart Green top shot to reveal it.

The third one I do Simon Aronson's Two Beginnings.

The Last one, if I'm doing it standing up, then I use Guy Hollingworth's Triumph Routine. If I'm seated or have a table nearby, I'll do Simon Aronson's Invisible Card to end it.
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Sounds like a nice set to me and plenty long. I assume you are using Simon's Stack. Assuming it's still in order as you progress through your routine, you might want to end with his Canasta effect, or Past, Present, Future. Using Canasta could bring another memorized stack into play. Then maybe end with Ortiz's Zen Master.
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Hmmm, I think more than two memorized deck tricks in any routine are already way too many!

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One of the simplest things I do, which could be made easier with a memorized deck is to get them to name a card, find it while casually shuffling or running through the deck mentioning I placed one random card before I started in my pocket.

I palm it off and produce it from my pocket. Or rather reverse it and perform an impromptu Invisible Deck. Both of these are stronger than producing it with a pop out move. Even just revealing it on top is stronger than a pop-out move.
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Profile of NoahJLevine
David, I think part of being good at Jazzing with the memorized deck is knowing when you've got a great hit. If someone names the top/bottom card of your stack, sell the heck out of it and end it right there.

Many people don't like spelling (I used to hate it), but spelling can be very effective with the stack. With spelling you need to emphasize the impossible odds of the card being at that exact place in the deck.

Also, in Worker's 5 Check out "The Wishing Trick" and "Jazzin".
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I have a deck that I have just memorized, but is not an Aronson stack or any of the other famous stacks. I just shuffled a deck and memorized it, kind of stupid on my part I guess

The only effect I have been doing with it until now is having a card named, and I can tell them where it is in the deck and vice/versa. I've been getting great reactions from this, but I was wondering if anyone else had any ideas.
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On 2004-07-20 15:21, dbiderman wrote:
I have a deck that I have just memorized, but is not an Aronson stack or any of the other famous stacks...i just shuffled a deck and memorized it...kinda stupid on my part I guess

Not at all! The vast majority of published memorized deck effects is stacked independent anyway. You only miss on the built-in features of the stacks by Aronson, Tamariz, etc.

Read their books and ask yourself if any of the "famous" stacks have built-in features you really can't live without. Then it's probably time to change. Otherwise, just stick with your own stack. It will be as good as any.
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I've watched asi wind do a 30 min show using just things from mnemonica, everyone was blown away
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Profile of danielvanm
On Jun 7, 2014, superej68 wrote:
I've watched asi wind do a 30 min show using just things from mnemonica, everyone was blown away

Nice! You've watched him live or is it online somewhere?
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Profile of JBSmith1978
To be honest I wasn't at all impressed with the built in effects from Mnemonica. Not to my taste or style.
On the other hand, remember that the built-in poker stack in Aronsons has at least 20 different presentations
attached to it(published). That being said it's possible that there are pieces of Tamariz that others have
touched upon and weren't fully realized.

Some of my now memdeck staples have come from jazzing.
Do yourself a favor and bring a small notebook/note app to each performance, paid or otherwise. Better yet
get the audio and video as well.

Pick up Gene Anderson's Stebbins effect. It's not memdeck, though for all phases but one you can use your
own stack, but it's pure gold.

It might inspire some fun ways to think about stack effects.
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Profile of stickmondoo
I second the Gene Anderson Routine. It's Great. Dennis Loomis discusses it in one of his Memorized Deck articles which you can find on the Café.
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Profile of The_MetalMaster
Bring an ultra mental deck into play and perform Gene Nielson's Swindled. Very underrated effect with a mem deck
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