Paul, you are right on the earlier thread. I know because I was the topic's author.

I strongly believe you are also right on the "who cares" concept. There are many excellent "7 Keys" effects available, using gimmicked and ungimmicked locks, without spending time finding and paying exhorburant prices for the "latest and greatest (at least according to the seller of the effect). There have been some excellent suggestions for "7 Keys" effects in this thread.

Here's another good one....Ed Fowler's 'When You Wake Up Tonight'.

Contact Ed at: carlyle@infi.net

Jerry Cargile
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It's fairly easy to make your own version of this rather than buying any specialist props.
See 'Max Maven's Videomind' tapes for a perfomance of the Baldplate trick. I think it's on the Close up mentalism volume.

DavyBoy.

I just found this rather old thread and thought I would take a very late moment to clear up any confusion.

Commenting on relevent comments in order are...

This effect can be done with almost any type of lock. The "Paramount Principle" can be applied to most locks. Most commonly, magicians and performers use padlocks. Thus, the original effect is with a padlock. That is why a padlock is included. If you wanted to do this effect with a locked house or room, a dead bolt or door knob would be included.

There is no lock switch invovled with the effect. It is clean and simple. If you really wanted to, you could use the lock to lock up your equipment or bike or whatever. The original padlock version is a 2" solid brass Guard padlock.

The presentation mentioned was with 5 keys yet it comes with 6 keys (all the keys are different). This allows for many, many different possible presentations making it extremely versatile. The standard effect is of course the old one where 4 spectators have free choice of any key. Each one tries their key and the lock does not work. (If your presentation allows for it, any or all of the spectators can try their key as many times as they like). The 5th and last remaining key opens the lock (no key or lock switch required).

My personal favourite presentation is very simple and only uses 2 keys with the lock (no switches required). The spectator is given one padlock and 2 keys. They try the keys in the lock and see that only one key operates the lock. The lock is locked, the spectator holds the key that does not work tight in their fist. The performer holds the key that does work tight in his (or her) fist. A quick Howie Mandel fist bump and the keys trade places. Now the spectator is holding the key that works and the performer is holding the key that does not work. The spectator (or a second spectator) tries the keys themselves to verify this. No switches involved and the trick starts and ends with the spectator trying the keys.

...and is there a current link to the product anywhere, who sells it, how much and etc??

finmag,

I've read and re-read your post several times now and must admit that I am baffled at what strikes me as your decision to take a classic effect in mentalism and turn it into a "Look, the keys just changed places" piece of "throw-away" magic. Seems to me that one of us has completely missed the point/premise of the effect -- and I don't think it's me. Am I wrong?

I have to agree with Dick. Sounds more like "The Hippity Hop Keys" than mentalism. And it seems to literally scream "trick lock."

Good thoughts,

Bob

I have the other version of K-e-Rect I know it as Crook Lock or Seven Keys to Baldplate. Looking to sell at magicwsm@aol.com
Thanks
Irwin

Mr. im4ft 3

What are you asking for this trick ?