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Chris C.
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I'm trying to put an act together so I can do birthday parties around Halloween, and I was wondering what tricks would be good for kids under 8. Would an arm chopper be too scary for young kids? Thanks!
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Chris,

I like skeleton in a closet.

It's funny and fits.

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<<<Would an arm chopper be too scary for young kids? >>>

In a word yes, if you look through the index you'll find lots of topics reference doing dangerous tricks for kids. Althougfh there are magicians who do perform them, I think you'll find the majority do not.
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Chris,
I would not do an arm chopper or anything like that for kids. While it may get a laugh from the audience, it may be at the expense of a terrified kid. I have seen 2 different magicians horrify kids, one with a guillotine, and one with visible sawing. It convinced me to never do anything that might scare a kid badly on stage.

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If you can get hold of Rick Allen's Spooky Goofy Safety Show Kit, you'll get some excellent ideas for Halloween themed magic that is a little spooky, but mostly silly, and definitely NOT frightening.

Now Rick sells this program as a safety show for schools and daycares, but for birthdays you can do the effects without the safety message.

You can try emailing Rick to see if he still has the package available: rickallen@getmorebookings.com . He is a good guy to do business with, and he also posts here occasionally.

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I agree with Joe.

Rick Allen's program will offer you some good ideas for Halloween themed tricks. I have it, as well.

He had a sale on the program a few weeks ago, that he advertised on another forum (The Dean's List), which he is very active on. Rick also told his newsletter subscribers about the sale. Sometimes, it pays to be on e-newsletter mailing lists such as the one Rick offers through his GetMoreBookings.com website, as long as you read the newsletters. I had a bargain on two of Rick's programs this way.

- Donald.

P.S. I think there might be something Halloween themed in one of Sammy Smith's books (a routine called Jasper the Friendly Ghost is in his book, "Big Laughs for Little People"), and also David Ginn has a book that might help you, titled "Magic and Monsters for kids I love."
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Here is a little secret. This week Arthur Stead will be introducing his Skull-O-Pini CD which goes along with the Skeleton in the Closet effect.

It is a cross between the Vanishing Bandana, and Steve Axtell' Axtrax CDs. It is a visual interactive CD (Like Axtrax) to a standard magic effect. The visual is like the Comedy of the Vanishing Bandana, and the Interactive is like the Magic Drawing Board "MARK" performance routine or Axtell's "Vern the Bird" performance routines. This is one-of-a-kind easy to perform great kid show interactive magic trick.

I've been asked to keep it a secret until today. If you do the Skeleton in the Closet, this is a MUST HAVE CD. If you don't you will once you see another perform it!

If you like the Vanishing Bandana, or Steve Axtell's performance CDs you'll surely love this one.

Keep an eye out for it on Arthur Stead's Web Site It is predicted to be a sell-out at the KIDabra Conference this August.

Oh Yea, the price is right... $20
Here is Arthur's Steads pre-release write up...
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SKULL-O-PINI

The next step in interactive performing!

Arthur Stead’s hilarious, original Skeleton in the Closet routine, where the Skeleton “sings” to the performer! It’s hysterical! Wonderful reactions from both kids and adults! Great for Halloween, birthdays and educational programs!

Includes CD, script, and full instructions.

Only $20 Post Paid!
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Chris C.
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What is the skeleton in closet routine and where can I get it?
Donald Dunphy
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Chris -

Here is the Skeleton in the Closet Trick at one dealer's site: http://www.daytonamagic.com/Kid's%20Magic/CH18.htm

Hocus Pocus Magic also has it on their site. When you are in there, use the keyword "skeleton" to search.

If you are not familiar with this trick, there is also a version for Christmas called, Santa stuck in the chimney. http://www.daytonamagic.com/Kid's%20Magic/CH25.htm

That trick is called Mixed up Santa (for the regular version) or Santa Stuck in the Chimney (for the deluxe version) on this website: http://www.hocus-pocus.com/static/xmas_page.html

BTW, before ordering any of these items directly from Daytona magic, I'd advise reading in the "Sweet and Sour" section of the Café, where they review dealer experiences! You may then choose to buy these through another dealer like David Ginn, Hank Lee's, etc.

- Donald.
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I think an arm chopper is okay if all the kids are 7-8 years old and you use an adult as the victim. If you want to put a little scare in the kids (it is a Halloween show) try the Mike Close Vampire Detector Paddle trick (forget the name).
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If you talk about bad luck / mirrors, you could use Wolf Magic's "Shattered" paddle effect. More of a close-up effect.

http://www.wolfsmagic.com/Shattered.htm

http://www.wolfsmagic.com/jumbo_shattered.htm

Also, I found some older threads that might be of interest:

Cafe thread titled... Halloween Safety Show Ideas...

Cafe thread titled... Halloween effects for kids?

- Donald.
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Dennis Michael
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I just learned that Duane Laflin has a great version of the "Skelton in the Closet" but he doesn't have it on his website.


Click here to see Hocus Pocus' "Skeleton in the Closet"
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I use a Mis-Made Jack-O-Lantern and 20th century Jack. I purchased at the silks necessary from Mary Jepson. There must be other similar versions. Also the Frankenstein Visible Coloring from Hank Lee. Use a Square Circle or Dove Pan to produce halloween candy or other halloween items. A witch/warlock version of the Sorcerer's Apprentice works too. Almost any standard effect can be used if the halloween "spirits" will let it. Have fun with adapting "standard" stuff to fit the occasion.
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I found a goofy looking sponge jack o lantern and hollowed it out to fit and spring nicely in my dove pan I tell the kids I am all ready for Halloween all I have to do is get my jack o lantern I have some pumpkin seeds right here and pull out snack pumpkin seeds they all yell it's the wrong kind of seed but I sprinkle them in the magic garden as seen on TV (dove pan) if the crowd is older I use flash paper and a match pull saying all we need is a little sunshine. For the 9 and younger crowd I don't use fire, I just produce a silly looking pumpkin from my magic garden. Silly fun for the young in your audience.
Maybe you could do a holiday story to a rope routine, zombie ball or linking rings, instead of buying to many specialty props. It will save you storage space and money! Everyone loves a good story, especially if it has twists and turns with a surprise ending, let your imagination run wild.
I do cut little sponge ghosts out of white foam and use them for a sponge routine.
What about a candy production trick or treat? Find a trick or treat bag and make a change bag.
Hope this helps
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Peachey Keene makes a foam jack-o-lantern for production in the dove pan: http://www.peacheykeene.com/seasonal%20props%20cart.html

It's available at some dealers, too, I think.

Although I suspect that Jewls was talking about the other type of foam pumpkin I have seen elsewhere on the internet.

- Donald.
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I haven't seen the Peechey Keene jack-o-lantern, but he makes good foam products. I have his Birthday cake and some of his snowmen.

Regan

I also made a "spirit cloth" that I use in halloween routines. I made up a scarey storyline to go with it. I had actually forgotten about it. I may have to dig it out of storage.

Regan
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Thanks for all the answers so far. Does anyone know of any good tricks that can be made to seem like spirits cause unexplainable movement other than IT? It doesn't have to happen visibly, it could just be that things aren't where you (or the audience) expect them to be. Thanks!
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I have spooky the ghost, you have a ghost that lives in a mansion but hes scared to scare people and when he trys to scare people (you put him round your back) he turns red with emmbarresment you rurn turn aound type stuff and you show that his back is not red its black, so you put back in his house and you tellc him to go and scare the people in the mansion of you lift ofthe front to see he's still their but then you realise its actually his shwdow and he really has vanised. This will be one of my tricks that I'm going to put into my halloween act, as well as a arm chopper and I don't care what other people think, I will do arm chopper for kids over 7.
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Maybe instead of having a kid in the audience put their arm in an arm chopper, put your arm in the arm chopper and have the kid push down the blade.
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There is some Halloween magic on Dazzling Magic's site:

The Great Pumpkin is on this page: http://www.dazzlingmagic.com/NewItems1.htm

Forgetful Frankie is on this page: http://www.dazzlingmagic.com/kid_show_magic_3.htm

Card Spider is on this page: http://www.dazzlingmagic.com/stage_magic_6.htm

- Donald.
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