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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
SHE is the one that "believes"...
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Spinnato Elite user 428 Posts |
Pete;
There's a video on this item? If so, where is it available? Thanks in advance. |
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MagicbyCarlo Inner circle has squandered his time making 1062 Posts |
I'm still concerned about the visibility of the gaff on this ring. Although it is well made when I look at the edge of the ring, I can see the hinge from several feet away. I am tentative about using it for that reason.
Has anyone actually used this in performance? If so please PM me and explain how this isn't noticed. I certainly wouldn't want to put the gaff in a spectator's hand, or am I missing something? Does anyone else find this too visible? This is a real concern for me.
Carlo DeBlasio
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I did it last night and nobody sees it. I keep it in motion, have them grip THEIR ring off the pencil (the first person) and have them TURN and show it from side to side and take it back.
The next two people look at the rings as I HOLD THE MIDDLE RING in my fingers. It's really a management thing.
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runawayjag Inner circle 1085 Posts |
Even the original Himber Towering (the wedding band,) had a somewhat visible hinge, although the cut was not as visible as it is in the Porper model. For that reason, I used Himber's Staggering (the signet ring,) for a long time since the hinge and cut were both well hidden by the setting. But, after having performed it so often, it became apparent to me that the hinge would never be noticed if the routine was properly performed, or "managed," as Pete Biro put it, so I went back to using Towering because a wedding band, just because I thought it was a a more indistinguishable ring for the trick.
The Porper ring, handled correctly, is even better because of its easy open/close capabilites and the hinge won't be seen. I have already used it for the routine I already do (which, by the way I do not think gets the full potential out of this ring...but, I'll keep experimenting,) and the ring has not been suspected, much less noticed. As I said in earlier threads, the killer part of the Porper model is the finish where two borrowed rings unlink into the spectators' hands without the magician as much as touching them (once they are on the pencil, of course.) So, in response to you question, yes I did notice the higher degree of visibility of the hinge and the cut, no, it doesn't matter in actual performance and the ease of operation far outweighs the visibility. At least, in my opinion. |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
That's exactly my feeling about this ring, too. I have not only this one, but I used to own an original Himber Wedding Band, and an original Himber Signet Ring. I was never as impressed with them as I am with this one.
I also have the ones that you have seen advertised in all of the recent catalogs. No names mentioned here. They all have advantages and disadvantages. There is no truly invisible hinge or closure on the market. Some are just harder to see than others. The closure on the Biro/Porper ring is very close to invisible. The rest will be hidden by the way you manage the rings. Take my word for this. The one that came with the original Koran presentation was even tougher to manage. If you have the Biro/Porper ring, you know what it was!
"The Swatter"
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MagicbyCarlo Inner circle has squandered his time making 1062 Posts |
I'm not familiar with the ring from the Koran routine, but I have seen the drawing from the Koran routine and would agree that a key type ring would be harder to hide.
Yet I always thought that the strength of this routine was the convincing way that the rings were viewed and handled by their owners. This is only the second Himber Ring I have ever owned. The premise of this effect has always appealed to me, but I have yet to find a ring that works the way I'd like. This ring has nice working, but I'm just a little uncomfortable with the visibility of the gimmick and need for cover. I have seen some other custom rings that camouflaged the gimmick in the design of the ring. I guess the first time I work with it in front of an audience will tell the tale. I just hate the apprehensive feeling.
Carlo DeBlasio
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Read the instructions in the back of the booklet (on blue) where Koran does the routine with a cheap ring that just has a slit ala linking rings. YOu will learn much from Koran's handling.
If you have NOT yet done it for an audience, you will learn much every time. GO SLOW... NO NEED TO HURRY. And one thing, people are interested in looking at their own rings. Again, read the instructions. Koran killed with his vesion, which is included. SLOW is the secret and move about. Thanks for your purchase. Watch for my next one... a reel-less, thumb tip-less ring flite.
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RenzIII Veteran user 318 Posts |
Pete,
This set is killing me, its so good I am working on a completely new presentation. when I get it worked out I'll send you a tape. This routine is different, and way off the beaten track, your ring set has made it possible, thank you. Biro Rules!!!! |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
RENZOMAGIC... nice to hear you are one of those that throws the instructions out and creates your OWN way. That is THE MAGIC.
I await your submission. Thanks.
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RenzIII Veteran user 318 Posts |
Hi Pete.
If I may call you Pete, actually the instructions are great, plus I have watched the Himber Rings DVD of which younare part of, for quite some time and done quite a bt of reasearch, But I was so inspired by the on handed approach and the cleverness of the ring and the pen, plus something I stumbled on by chance, I am just going with it to see what happens. Maybe its no big deal or maybe not, who knows, but I do appreciate high quality in my props, and yours and Mr. Porpers set is the end all. I'll keep you posted Renzo |
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Ye Mage New user 2 Posts |
Personally I think this is all hype. It doesn't matter what the "prop" is made of - it's the PERFORMER.
In fact, didn't Mr. Biro say just that in another post? Just my opinion. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
YES ... it is the performer. However, having a quality prop, and/or a prop that DOES THE WORK allows one to concentrate MORE on the performing side.
It is never fun to work with something you have to worry about.
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
In my opinion, it's both. A good performer with a good prop is better than a good performer with a poor prop. When it comes to props, I won't settle for anything less than the best, assuming that I can afford it.
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts |
As Gazzo likes to say, "A professional can't afford cheap props."
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RenzIII Veteran user 318 Posts |
Yes Whit,
Also I say well made props can be inspiring as well. Nothing better than having something you can count on. Thats why I have a School for Scoundrels perfect clip for my Ring Flight. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Throw away the ring flight, keep the clip so you can you it when you get the new Biro/Porper "Just IN Case" which will obsolete all ring flights...
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RenzIII Veteran user 318 Posts |
I don't doubt is for a second Mr.Biro.
I certainly look forward to "Just In Case" it sounds interesting. Who will be distributing it? |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Joe Porper and Joe Stevens.
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Paul Gross Special user 574 Posts |
Hello Pete,
I just off the phone with Joe Porper...Hocus Pocus will also be selling "Just In Case" as well.From what he has told me about this it sounds great. Your colaboration with Joe on the Linking Finger Rings produced one of the finest effects we have had the pleasure of offering in a long time. I guess that is what you can expect from two great minds like yours and Joe. Best Regards Paul Gross Owner Hocus Pocus |
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