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Hi Cafe, I can finally share the result of my obsession since 2008 and leave the plot alone, at last! Smile

https://www.breakthroughtrick.com/

THE PRODUCT

The Breakthrough System (TBS) allows you to perform one of the most impossible magic routines ever created with a borrowed everyday item. (Solid through solid with a can)
TBS is unbeatable when it comes to both - the impossibility of the effect/routine and also practicality of the methods.

WHAT MAKES TBS GREAT:

POWERFUL

* A spectator PERFORMS the trick not participates passively just holding an item
* Several audience members can experience performing the trick
* Spectator's own item is used
* Compatible with another powerful effect in the plot: Sinful + TBS coin versions
In Wayne's own words: "I agree that both effects work very well together and would love if you mentioned that on the video."

EMPTY CAN (vs full)

* More natural and practical to use an open can
* No ruining a drink
* No mess
* No need for another item to pour the liquid into

BORROWED CAN (vs gimmicked)

* No need to carry a gimmicked can, better pocket space
* Real life provides natural performing opportunities

USING A TAB (vs coin etc)

* A tab is the most logical and organic item to use for a solid through solid effect with a can
* No worries finding coins, people use cash less and less
* No worries about the size of a coin

MULTIPLE METHODS

* Several methods to cancel the secret
* Impromptu versions for unexpected situations
* Gimmicked versions for super easy execution
* Can turn the plot into a routine

WHAT DO YOU GET FOR THE PRICE?

To put it simply, you get THE BEST!

* One of the most impossible routines in magic
* Masterclass on the plot with 10+ different practical versions
* 1-on-1 video session with the creator (special launch offer)
* Dedicated learning platform (community for TBS owners)
* Unlimited email support - get all your questions and concerns answered


WHAT'S THE CATCH?

I guess for some people the catch can be the price maybe? Because it might not be 'their trick' so it might not be worth it for them, but I'm sure everyone who's into organic magic will love it. And given there are far more expensive products in the plot, which offer much less, I think the investment is worth it. And in the end, I as the creator am the only one who knows the immense work that has been put into this project over the years and that's simply the price of my work. So if something else excites you more, then I'm happy with you supporting another creator!

All the lovers of the plot and organic magic in general, I can't wait to meet you all in the community I've created for us and have amazing sessions together to help you master and have fun with The Breakthrough System.

Johannes
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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Looks amazing! Also, when you have Gregory Wilson giving an endorsement on a product you know it's going to be good. Gregory hasn't endorsed any new releases in years!

Looking forward to this and Merry Christmas to all!!
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I’m stumped. I will be ordering (once Santa gives me that bonus).
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This looks insane. I just pre-ordered. Can’t wait till February.
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On Dec 25, 2025, RNK wrote:
Looks amazing! Also, when you have Gregory Wilson giving an endorsement on a product you know it's going to be good. Gregory hasn't endorsed any new releases in years!

Looking forward to this and Merry Christmas to all!!


Thank you! I appreciate your support! Yeah, Greg is great. Definitely one of my favourites. We had a longer discussion about TBS. Might post the video if people are interested.
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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On Dec 25, 2025, RNK wrote:
Looks amazing! Also, when you have Gregory Wilson giving an endorsement on a product you know it's going to be good. Gregory hasn't endorsed any new releases in years!

Looking forward to this and Merry Christmas to all!!


Thank you! I appreciate your support! Yeah, Greg is great. Definitely one of my favourites. We had a longer discussion about TBS. Might post the video if people are interested.




I would love to see the video. One of the best, if not the best close-up/sleight of hand magicians of our time. More importantly, Greg is probably one of the top entertainers of the art in our time.
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What specifically is meant by “guaranteed?”
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Wow. I HATE the marketing for this trick. It might be great, but this seems like the type of scam advertising you’d see for a time share or male enhancement pill.
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What specifically is meant by “guaranteed?”

TBS comes with THE BEST PRODUCT IN THE PLOT OR YOUR MONEY BACK guarantee.

I have seen many products that have been hyped up only to let down customers, so I am practicing - put your money where your mouth is - as a creator, so I am not calling anything *the holy grail*, *ultimate*, *the best* etc unless I am actually willing to back up this claim.

This is to give you peace of mind that if you like this plot then this product is the best in terms of the possibilities it gives to perform this plot - keeping in mind the impossibility of the effect/routine and the practicality of the methods.

Johannes
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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So this will be a download? No gimmicks are shipped but you will be building your own if needed? Just wanting to understand if some physical item is coming with this purchase. Great work Johannes.
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On Dec 26, 2025, jb13 wrote:
Wow. I HATE the marketing for this trick. It might be great, but this seems like the type of scam advertising you’d see for a time share or male enhancement pill.

I have not marketed a product before. I am releasing a product like this completely on my own for the first time, so I am open for feedback.

I have not seen time share or male enhancement pill ads so I do not get the reference. Can you please specifically bring out what do you hate and why? I would love to learn and improve.

Johannes
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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Can the coin by signed (was it your effect “Breakthrough”?)?
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So this will be a download? No gimmicks are shipped but you will be building your own if needed? Just wanting to understand if some physical item is coming with this purchase. Great work Johannes.

Thank you for your interest! No gimmicks are shipped because this is something you can easily make several yourself and inexpensively. As you probably know there have been incidents where companies charge customers for shipping something they could have easily done or acquired themselves for less than the shipping price. So I think customers would have been ****ed if I would have shipped it.

Johannes
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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Can the coin by signed (was it your effect “Breakthrough”?)?

My previous release is part of the system, but some things do not work with a coin, TBS is meant to be used with a tab. Versions with a coin are considered bonus ideas, but yes, I teach it how to perform it with a signed coin (both sides signed by a spec).

But in general I do not recommend using a coin or signing it, because why would you bring EXTRA things - a coin and a sharpie into your performance if you do not have to - you are just making things unnecessarily more complicated! What has a coin to do with a can? Nothing! But using a tab FROM the can makes perfect sense. The whole point of TBS is to make the plot feel more organic, so keep it simple!

Johannes
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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Johannes, is a gimmick supplied for the gimmick version?
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Johannes, is a gimmick supplied for the gimmick version?

Answered this previously. Please read 2 posts up from your post!
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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On Dec 26, 2025, dooblehorn wrote:
Johannes, is a gimmick supplied for the gimmick version?

Answered this previously. Please read 2 posts up from your post!


Whoops, sorry, got it!
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Wow. I HATE the marketing for this trick.


To be honest I have to agree that the marketing is a little off-putting. Johannes, there are a lot of design elements here that make the site seem strange or suspicious.

  • The trick has it's own site that's not part of any larger site for yourself or a production company. Obviously there's nothing inherently wrong with this (I've done it before too), but it's pretty uncommon in this industry so it looks unusual.
  • The page layout is a bit odd; the fonts/spacing are huge so you keep having to scroll up and down to find information, and the order of the various sections feels somewhat random. If you don't watch the trailer it's quite difficult to even figure out what the effect is.
  • There's a lot of vague, clickbait-style language ("Most IMPOSSIBLE Magic Trick", "ONE OF THE MOST IMPOSSIBLE MAGIC ROUTINES EVER CREATED", "Could have been 4 separate releases", etc.).
  • One of the first quotes is just attributed to "customer".
  • The whole concept of doing a pre-order for a download is a bit confusing. Is the video not ready yet? Why wouldn't you just wait and sell it once it's ready?
  • The "adding up the value" section is somewhat reminiscent of online "guru" courses and other similar scams. It's not clear how "EXCLUSIVE MEMBERS' HUB FOR TBS OWNERS" is different than a Facebook group, or the discussion forum that Penguin provides for every product. To me it doesn't make sense to say that this aspect is worth €75 separate from the product itself.
  • You say that "some products in this plot cost $135" but then you say the price for this product (once it's actually released) is planned at €125, which at current rates is equal to about $147. So there's an implication there that you don't actually plan to sell it at €125, or else you wouldn't be suggesting that yours is cheaper than the others on the market. Plus that's expensive for a download once the one-on-one teaching is no longer available, right?
  • The "guarantee" seems very carefully-worded. You say you can get a refund if you find "another product in the plot that gives you the same possibilities", but you've already stated many times you feel this is the best product on the market so it's hard to believe you'd ever agree to refund anyone. Meanwhile other magic dealers have much more straightforward and flexible refund policies.
  • The links to Legal, Privacy Policy, and Disclaimer at the bottom aren't actually clickable links.

Of course none of this says anything about the quality of the product itself; it's obvious this is something you've spent a lot of time on and you've got some great quotes from big names, so I look forward to seeing reviews once it's released. But I do think you aren't putting your best foot forward with this site design unfortunately.
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I purchased.

So once you’ve purchased, you will have access to the teaching in about two months.
That is what the confirmation I received says.

That’s a fair bit of time.
I assume in the interim they are going to be working on the videos and teaching.

So this really isn’t a pre-release. It’s apparently a pre-shoot.

It also seems designed to vacuum up as much money for a download - most likely to combat the inevitable pirates stealing a typical download.
How can you hype an intellectual product as hard as you possibly can - and make as much money as you can before the pirates start swarming the waters?

I wouldn’t be surprised if the website itself was designed by AI. There’s nothing wrong with any of this, but without a doubt, it is a design to vacuum up as much money as you possibly can (no pun intended). The ideas in the teaching may be absolutely extraordinary, but 60 days is an extraordinary time to wait for a download.

In the interim, expect the creator to be hyping the heck out of this thing. I’m a little envious to have a product that you don’t have to mail to anyone with almost zero manufacturing cost other than marketing.

This will be my final post on this thread. It feels like there was more thought put into the marketing of this than almost any other aspect.
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In sales it’s called an “urgency” close - designed to get people to buy now, rather than later. An urgency close is always based on FOMO.


As explained - offering a pre-order option has mutually beneficial factors - it helps me as a creator to manage all the costs to fund the production and delivery of the project and it gives a chance for my early supporters to get the product cheaper.
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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