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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10901 Posts 
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15 pages of thread.
I’ve been away for a while, but wow wow wow. I did the pre-order so I’m just gonna wait till I get it and tune back in then.
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BarFly Regular user I hate digging holes for 155 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2026, Dannydoyle wrote: You are absolutely correct here Mr. Doyle. Many have forgotten that effective communication requires solid listening skills, or in this case, the ability to read and comprehend. The creator has talked himself out of at least one sale. I am 100% confident in that. |
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Johannes Mengel Regular user Estonia 124 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2026, PatrickGregoire wrote: Spot on! When I put the website up I was literally going - now what - how will I get traffic to the page and people interested in it and then I just started showing it to people and I’m sharing the feedback as it is coming on….
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com
"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc "Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril "The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner “One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber “The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty "The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon |
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davidpaul$ Inner circle Georgetown, South Carolina 3400 Posts
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Take a look at Master Con by Gregory Wilson in The Latest and Greatest. Can you see a difference? The (end users are selling the product.) A select few of named magicians are maybe, rightfully so, singing praises of your product. GREAT!
BUT... the difference is the perception of people who are only HEARING how great it is. You can post hundreds of positive reviews for something that hasn't been released yet. The reviews that can really catapult sales are those like in Master Con who actually have the full, in the hands product. You as the creator are trying too hard. IMO The marketing turned me off and like BarFly will pass on this even though it "sounds" good. I did purchase Master Con. I was convinced by the actual purchasers of the product that I felt confident to hit the buy button. My 2 cents and it's obvious you and others don't agree. Best of luck.
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BarFly Regular user I hate digging holes for 155 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2026, davidpaul$ wrote: Good analogy. The OP created this post on Christmas of last year. He hasn’t stopped talking for 56 days and 16 pages. I don’t think he realizes that he has hyped this product to rival the second coming of Christ, and is at risk of creating an expectation gap, which may cause an anti-climactic launch of his product. Honestly, he wore me out. I have no more curiosity about the release. He took me from a buyer to no longer interested! |
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CardGuyMike Inner circle 1069 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2026, davidpaul$ wrote: Well one difference is that Greg is a well-known and respected creator -- many will buy his stuff sight unseen. But I think the larger point is this notion of "hyping" and pre-selling something something that isn't out yet. Many here react negatively to perceived hype -- Craig Petty has talked extensively about this, as many of his products are accused of the same. I think it comes down to disagreement about marketing strategy. Johannes started this thread at the end of December, about a product that isn't scheduled to be out until March. As such, all he can do at this point is share the trailer and quotes from people who he has shown this to. And those who dislike this are saying "you should have just released it and let the market speak for itself." Perhaps. Would that have led to more sales than this strategy? Who knows? But at this point what's done is done. It will be out in less than two weeks (if it stays to schedule). No point in criticizing the strategy now. I imagine Johannes has learned many things from this journey. |
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Wravyn Inner circle 4225 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2026, CardGuyMike wrote: Or generated 16 pages thus far about a product that is not being backed by a large magic producing company? |
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countrymaven Inner circle 1703 Posts
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They had a previous release by the same name. It wasn't rated too great. Has all the key moves in it. They will deny it.
So they added one thing any magician with a couple years experience could figga out. Or figure out better ways to do it. But they are in another country, Estonia, and decided to be your best friend and up the price by more than FIVE TIMES. Of course if you add some things to an older less successful same thing you can get some good quotes if you give enough away for free. New magicians who are suckas love to buy this type of thing. the more obvious it is at least a partial scam makes them want it even more. Of course, this doesn't account for some of their paid shills who say they bought it or whatever. Everyone but a donkey's ass knows that you don't buy a 5X'd item from a private person in another country who wants to hang out with you after you buy it and it is not backed by a major magic co. But some magicians like to fool themselves more than even their spectators!!! Ethical business involves showing the goods, not doing months of showing nothing but hot air about themselves. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 22682 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2026, Wravyn wrote: If you are a person who believes "all publicity is good publicity" just Google The Carsons Branson Missouri. Or see about Reza and some of those things happened. So not all publicity is good publicity.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Chris K Inner circle 2573 Posts
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Enjoying seeing 90% of the most recent pages all about marketing, people pretending they know exactly what a product is even though it hasn't been released, and debating the merit of testimonials (omg, could you imagine if he had zero testimonials what you would be saying instead...) |
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Johannes Mengel Regular user Estonia 124 Posts
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On Feb 20, 2026, countrymaven wrote: Countrymaven, I made it very clear myself that my previous release Breakthrough is part of The Breakthrough System - as the name OBVIOUSLY indicates as well. Madison who is a respected reviewer here also communicated that the previous release is just a part of the system. For some reason you keep repeating this basic knowledge about the product like it’s news. You are bashing me and this product and "reviewing" it WITHOUT even owning it. That's one thing, but next level is attacking and insulting actual customers who PAID for the product and are HAPPY with it. You are insulting people like Tim Trono who had the knowledge of my previous product Breakthrough and still paid for the new system and praised it. Tim Trono is probably THE person who has seen the most magic tricks on this planet, because of his position of being a buyer for the biggest wholesaler and also the retailer in magic. His literal EXPERTISE is EVALUATING magic tricks - what's great magic and what's not. You are coming off as rude and arrogant attacking and insulting highly respected and knowledgeable experts like Tim Trono, Chris Kenner, Cyril, Gregory Wilson etc who all have actually seen the system, while you haven't. Plus those guys had nothing to gain to praise this product - it's their genuine evaluation of my product based on their expertise that has come from decades of experience working on a very high level in magic. You commented early on "a total pass for me" and you are not going to comment anymore, but here you are the most active person commenting this thread. It's hard to understand why are you so obsessed with the product if it's "a total pass" for you and you keep repeating it 10+ times as others have also pointed out. It’s like you keep visiting a restaurant just to tell the owner that you are not coming to eat there and everyone who are dining out and enjoying their experience are shills and fools… Do you understand that it’s a very strange behavior. Even though many people are praising the system it does not mean it is worth it for everyone. It is NOT! And I'm here as a creator to answer people's questions about the product and help them figure out is this a right fit for them. You already said this is not for you and I have also confirmed your assessment that I agree with you. So I hope you can let go of the obsession, because I’m sure you have better things in your life to direct your energy towards, right? —— Message to everyone else…. I just want to share my excitement with you… David Blaine wanted to experience TBS so yesterday I performed it to him in Blackpool or to be precise HE performed it - I did the in the hands of a spectator version to him and he loved it. 
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com
"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc "Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril "The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner “One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber “The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty "The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon |
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davidpaul$ Inner circle Georgetown, South Carolina 3400 Posts
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Here we go again............
I'm driving out of this thread, too much traffic for the brain. I allowed the traffic so that's on me. Who cares in the scheme of things about a can and a tab that garnered 16 + pages other than the OP and other purchasers. This too will fade away and be forgotten about. Good wishes to all and really hope it meets and or exceeds your expectations.
Guilt will betray you before technique betrays you!
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Chris K Inner circle 2573 Posts
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On Feb 20, 2026, davidpaul$ wrote: I didn’t realize the Magic café had turned into an airport where departures had to be announced. |
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 2111 Posts
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Blackpool demo of THE BREAKTHROUGH SYSTEM
Starts at 5:42 https://youtu.be/9Mi53IzsX8I?si=aGAn_1Fz0p4K3O-2 Discount code in video
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The Unmasked Magician Inner circle If only I didn't have a wife and a kid I would have MUCH more than 3239 Posts
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Yeah, that looked pretty good to me. And for those that think this is a blatant money grab: he is wearing the same blue sweater all the time. This is not about a new Ferrari. It’s just about a new hoodie.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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Pete Legend Inner circle Ireland 1440 Posts
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On Feb 22, 2026, The Unmasked Magician wrote: 
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countrymaven Inner circle 1703 Posts
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Wow. when I was 12 I learned the vanishing dime up the sleeve, attached to a piece of e....c! this really
is something so utterly new like 50 years ago for me. I knew they would use this method, and it is one of the best methods because of how old it is. So yes I learned this in like a 2 dollar magic booklet. I could imagine, upon seeing their video promo, a while back, while it still was deceptive, it would be using this as the easiest and cleanest method. After months of hot air, and exactly, as you should have known. So I am voting for this for the trick of the year, of course going back to like 1940 or whenever this method was invented. So much hot air wasted on nothing, but you can also reach in the trash and find a can and whatever to do this classy trick! |
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The Unmasked Magician Inner circle If only I didn't have a wife and a kid I would have MUCH more than 3239 Posts
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Chill, countrymaven. The only hot air will be between Johannes’ upper body and his new hoodie.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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gorrjer New user 8 Posts
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Wow, I’m surprised to learn that Countrymaven doesn't like this trick. Finally he let us know how he feels about it!
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The Unmasked Magician Inner circle If only I didn't have a wife and a kid I would have MUCH more than 3239 Posts
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Johannes just showed us (the official Magic Cafe review team) everything. I thought it was... awesome. I'm buying it. I need to catch some sleep now, I'll be back with a more elaborate review later.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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