On Mar 2, 2026, benbv wrote:
And I’m still unsure how this is better than Sinful or Capture… with so many people here having purchased TBS surely someone will have an opinion?

On Mar 2, 2026, benbv wrote:
And I’m still unsure how this is better than Sinful or Capture… with so many people here having purchased TBS surely someone will have an opinion?

On Mar 2, 2026, TStone wrote:

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On Mar 2, 2026, benbv wrote:
And I’m still unsure how this is better than Sinful or Capture… with so many people here having purchased TBS surely someone will have an opinion?

Not sure any of them are 'better' or 'worse'. They have weaknesses and strengths at different spots. Which seems to hint that Breakthrough and Sinful could be routined together in a way that would benefit both.

On Mar 2, 2026, CardGuyMike wrote:
Sinful works best with a particular type of can, but other than that it is impromptu. It may seem more impossible to some, but it's also a one-and-done trick. The handling, while not hard, likely requires more practice and care. TBS can be repeated, so although they are in the same category I don't know how directly comparable they are -- unless you just wanted to do it once. If you want to do it just once and don't care about putting it in a spectator's hands, I might go with Sinful. However, as noted I might perform Sinful as a lead in to TBS.

I agree with Tom Stone about the somewhat self-indulgent Introduction, but as you revisit this effect you never have to watch that portion again. As I watched it, I couldn't help but think much of it was driven by the criticism on this thread.

The gradual rollout is an odd choice, but really I wasn't able to watch and digest everything that was released yesterday anyhow. Which of course doesn't invalidate other people's desire to have it all at once. I have to wonder, for those who purchase this later, will they also get it in the same way or will they get it all at once? I take it as just another manifestation of Johannes' enthusiasm for the project. He wants people to really take the time to learn it step by step, and not just put it on in the background as "content." I imagine that is part of what he meant when he said he only wanted the "right" people to buy it. The fallacy here is that the people who won't have time to get to it until next weekend or later are going to get it all at once anyway.

I will stop rambling now. I do appreciate that the videos are organized and broken up into bite-sized chunks.

On Mar 2, 2026, TStone wrote:
This is a fun trick. Simple and delightfully bold.
I'm not quite as taken with the over-hyped marketing and the overdimensioned and overly verbose instructions. As introduction there were five videos, over 20 minutes in total, that did not touch upon the workings at all. And after around 200 repetitions of "I really love this method (giggle)", the urge to toss the computer out the window is overwhelming. An editor would have been very useful here.
However... it is worth suffering through the verbosity and the needless exploration of every minute handling variation, because the trick itself is fun and delightfully bold.

On Mar 2, 2026, TStone wrote:
This is a fun trick. Simple and delightfully bold.
I'm not quite as taken with the over-hyped marketing and the overdimensioned and overly verbose instructions. As introduction there were five videos, over 20 minutes in total, that did not touch upon the workings at all. And after around 200 repetitions of "I really love this method (giggle)", the urge to toss the computer out the window is overwhelming. An editor would have been very useful here.
However... it is worth suffering through the verbosity and the needless exploration of every minute handling variation, because the trick itself is fun and delightfully bold.

On Mar 3, 2026, John C wrote:
Wow!! Very slick.

1. What is the level of difficulty in the slieght of hand?
2. Is this something that needs to be used periodically or after learning can be picked up again a few weeks later?
3. Is it considered knacky?

Thanks.

On Mar 3, 2026, Catbacker wrote:

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On Mar 3, 2026, John C wrote:
Wow!! Very slick.

1. What is the level of difficulty in the slieght of hand?
2. Is this something that needs to be used periodically or after learning can be picked up again a few weeks later?
3. Is it considered knacky?

Thanks.

It varies depending on the particular routine and method. If you are comfortable with basic coin sleights (very basic), you should be fine. Performed as individual effects, there are some really fun tricks. But this system really shines when chaining the effects together. Constantly varying methods keep people's cognitive processing proceeding down the wrong path. Plus, the end of one phase sets up the next one. Each phase taken individually you probably wouldn't need to practice frequently. But routining them together will probably require regular performance and regular practice.

You can perform gimmicked and non-gimmicked routines. And even most of the gimmicked routines can be performed impromptu sans gimmick. The gimmick is not included. But if you purchase the system, you will understand why it is not. The components will literally cost you less than $5 and take five minutes to make.

Even carrying the gimmick and one extra thing, it requires ZERO (OK, almost zero) pocket space for the non-impromptu phases. AND, the end of every phase leaves you completely clean.

The million dollar question, (actually, it was $117.48 for me), is it worth it? If you are a close-up, bar, strolling or busking performer where cans are prevalent, yes. Definitely. And like all effects regardless of price, if you are going to perform it. In he trailer, what you see is what you get. So you should know. But keep in mind, this is coming from a guy whose most performed effects are Grandma's Miracle, Block and Cord, Scotch and Whiskey key through counter and NoRisk.

On Mar 3, 2026, joshjmill wrote:

It's actually super helpful that you listed the types of effects you normally perform with your thoughts on this! With some of our most commonly performed effects matching up, I feel validated at least in my initial thoughts that this might fit my style. I also picked up this project and I am waiting to hold my overall judgement until I process all of the tutorials and take some time to work with it. So far I think everything I have seen is very clever and I can see myself working it, but I tend to agree with earlier posts as well suggesting that this project could have benefited greatly from a video editor/director.