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On Feb 25, 2026, countrymaven wrote:
I will completely surprise you now. I must sincerely apologize, if this is possible in the magic community. I did not like the way this was marketed. Why? Because there are some who have paid off a house without delivering the product. However, in all fairness, I trust the number of satisfied reviewers who "saw the goods." So I will endorse it fully and say, I was wrong. I do not want to mention some of the disasters that have preceded this project with this type of marketing and people left without the product being delivered. But obviously, this was different. So I wholeheartedly endorse you Johannes. I actually think that magic needs to be taught in a "whole toolbox" type of way, to overcome the challenges of the quick internet search for a reveal, etc. Thanks for delivering. I think you can understand my skepticism from some of the crash and burns from some top names in magic. But you have delivered in a stellar way, and I congratulate you!!! Cheers, and best wishes to all the reviewers and you, Johannes!!!


Thank you, I appreciate it! I also have learned a lot how to do the marketing better the next time!
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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On Feb 25, 2026, Johannes Mengel wrote:

Thank you, I appreciate it! I also have learned a lot how to do the marketing better the next time!


I’m sorry if I missed it, but did you ever state the reason(s) why this wasn’t released through one of the larger distributors?
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On Feb 25, 2026, Johannes Mengel wrote:

Thank you, I appreciate it! I also have learned a lot how to do the marketing better the next time!


I’m sorry if I missed it, but did you ever state the reason(s) why this wasn’t released through one of the larger distributors?




Many creators sell their product on their own website at first before selling it on a large dealer's website. Some creators actually never end up using a larger dealer and sell her own products exclusively.
Check out Bafflingbob.com
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Oh I understand that. I’ve been around magic for 50 years. In that time, I have seen and personally experienced, many issues when buying directly from the creators. Most are one man bands so to speak, and have no business running a business, and others are well, crooks. I’m not saying the OP is either. My guess is that this item won’t make it to a large distributor. I don’t believe that anybody is anticipating its release more than the pirates.
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On Feb 24, 2026, countrymaven wrote:
I will completely surprise you now. I must sincerely apologize, if this is possible in the magic community. I did not like the way this was marketed. Why? Because there are some who have paid off a house without delivering the product. However, in all fairness, I trust the number of satisfied reviewers who "saw the goods." So I will endorse it fully and say, I was wrong. I do not want to mention some of the disasters that have preceded this project with this type of marketing and people left without the product being delivered. But obviously, this was different. So I wholeheartedly endorse you Johannes. I actually think that magic needs to be taught in a "whole toolbox" type of way, to overcome the challenges of the quick internet search for a reveal, etc. Thanks for delivering. I think you can understand my skepticism from some of the crash and burns from some top names in magic. But you have delivered in a stellar way, and I congratulate you!!! Cheers, and best wishes to all the reviewers and you, Johannes!!!

As one of your harshest critics, I applaud your mea culpa and will assume it is sincere.

I hope you can look back at your posts and understand two things:
1. You were not focused on the marketing in trashing this release, to the point that I am surprised to hear this was your main issue
2. You posted far too many times about it

While many pre-releases go fine, I think we all know some of the disasters you're talking about, and I understand your skepticism. But this was a short enough timeline that I knew I could just dispute the charge with my credit card company if I didn't get anything. Not that I really thought that would happen in this case. I think it's a shame to distrust all pre-releases because of the bad behavior of a few, but I guess it only takes being burned once to fear the fire.
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I’m sorry if I missed it, but did you ever state the reason(s) why this wasn’t released through one of the larger distributors?


My typical approach was to release my stuff through retailers, but the truth is no company will care more about my product than I do and give it more attention then I can, because for them my product is just one of many… So I decided to try something else and do it solo, but I’ll be honest it’s hard to do all the marketing side on my own especially if you have no list and following… So recently I actually did end up doing a deal with Vanishing where they will help me to get the word out, but the customers can still get the special personalised experience I wanted to create for them on my own platform where they can access the masterclass and the community and also book a session with me. This way I can still create the unique experience I had in mind, but get help from a retailer to make sure people know that this opportunity/product even exists.
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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I’m sorry if I missed it, but did you ever state the reason(s) why this wasn’t released through one of the larger distributors?


My typical approach was to release my stuff through retailers, but the truth is no company will care more about my product than I do and give it more attention then I can, because for them my product is just one of many… So I decided to try something else and do it solo, but I’ll be honest it’s hard to do all the marketing side on my own especially if you have no list and following… So recently I actually did end up doing a deal with Vanishing where they will help me to get the word out, but the customers can still get the special personalised experience I wanted to create for them on my own platform where they can access the masterclass and the community and also book a session with me. This way I can still create the unique experience I had in mind, but get help from a retailer to make sure people know that this opportunity/product even exists.


Sounds like you’ve found a solution that satisfies your intrinsic needs as well as part of your marketing needs as well. Best of luck with your release!
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On Feb 25, 2026, BrandonWilliams wrote:
Why are people seeing this for free, when those that paid for it months ago still have nothing? Really devalues preordering when people who haven’t invested are provided materials for free because they complained about marketing. Why not share the same info with actual paying customers as the project develops?


Just to clarify, we didn't see the product! We were on a zoom call with Johannes where he showed us unedited, back-to-back demo of the different methods (no reveal) and then a short intro to the project.

Also, I hopped on (having been a supporter) simply because I wanted to chat about the impression I got of the marketing, and to see if I could help from the "structure of the instruction" side of things--I would have been happy to wait 5 more days to see the whole thing, but then any insight I'd be providing would be too late to help this release Smile
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Why are people seeing this for free, when those that paid for it months ago still have nothing? Really devalues preordering when people who haven’t invested are provided materials for free because they complained about marketing. Why not share the same info with actual paying customers as the project develops?

This is unfair. All anyone saw was performance, no secrets.
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A few days ago performed TBS to Blaine and today performed it to Dynamo. Got the footage as well this time, will share soon!

Official launch is close now, I’m very excited to share this finally with everyone! Smile
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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Is this being released on March 1?
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Is this being released on March 1?


Correct!
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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Good luck!
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Johannes Mengel this was your Kobayashi Maru....


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On Feb 23, 2026, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
Johannes just showed us (the official Magic Cafe review team) everything. I thought it was... awesome. I'm buying it. I need to catch some sleep now, I'll be back with a more elaborate review later.


Makes it sound like they were taught the whole system, and clearly Unmasked wasn't a purchaser before he attended - unless he bought it twice.

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On Feb 24, 2026, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
So... I'm buying it. Johannes offered to show us the whole tutorial, but I want to support him and this creation.


As above.

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On Feb 24, 2026, ArtIn wrote:
I bought the product today and am looking forward to the release!


From your own mouth, you were not a purchaser until after attending.

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many of them bought it afterwards.


From the mouth of the creator.

I don't blame Brandon for thinking these people were shown the tutorial. I personally don't care if that was the case or not, but I don't understand why some are trying to claim it was all purchasers - it clearly wasn't.
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I don't think Johannes did anything wrong here. He was posting quotes from many well-known professionals and getting pushback on how genuine that feedback was. So he gathered a group of people from this group, even inviting some people who had shown skepticism about this release. As one of group (who had already purchased) I can tell you that nobody learned enough to take the place of buying this. We saw about 20 minutes of uncut performances, and Johannes tipped a few of the methods -- many of which any experienced magician would have already known. But none of us walked away knowing enough to really perform without buying.

The fact is that many releases are given to reviewers free. How many of the YouTube reviewers do you think pay for the stuff they get to review? And we didn't get the release for free, just a Zoom preview and discussion. People will seize on just about anything to complain about.
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I agree, he did nothing wrong and I personally don't care what he showed and who he showed it to.
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Yeah, I don't think he's done anything wrong. If anything, he's trying a little too hard to please everyone.

As a creator, you're free to give your products to whoever you like. Johannes also invited me to the Zoom call, but I wasn't able to attend. I pre-ordered ages ago, so at least some of the people invited were already customers.

Personally, I'm not a fan of pre-orders in general, and I've told Johannes I'll be reviewing TBS once it's officially released. He was perfectly fine with that. My interactions with him confirm he's a genuine and decent bloke who's simply trying his best.

Marty
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Johannes great job. You are very wise to promote it among higher level magicians.
It only helps the great value of your project to be known. don't worry about people complaining, they will see soon
how great this project is! best wishes!!!
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On Feb 27, 2026, countrymaven wrote:
Johannes great job. You are very wise to promote it among higher level magicians.
It only helps the great value of your project to be known. don't worry about people complaining, they will see soon
how great this project is! best wishes!!!


Thank you for your support countrymaven! Happy to finally be on the same page together Smile
www.BREAKTHROUGHTRICK.com

"ONE OF THE GREATEST CLOSE-UP ILLUSIONS EVER CREATED!" - Vanishing Inc

"Genuinely the best borrowed can routine I’ve seen." - Cyril

"The Breakthrough System is one of the cleverest, most amazing uses of sleight of hand, spectator management, and just plain creativity, I have seen in a long time." - Chris Kenner

“One of the best magic tricks I’ve seen in decades!” - Adam Wilber

“The best impromptu trick I’ve ever seen." - Craig Petty

"The Breakthrough System is the final word on this effect. Johannes Mengel won!" - Mark Elsdon
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