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magicmanchris Regular user 113 Posts |
Does anyone own this dvd,if so is it good.What are your thoughts on it.What are some Pros and Cons?
your magic is only real when you believe it's real.
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
I have the Vhs it was orig... sold for 199 bucks a little to steep, the material is excellent a good buy for about 35 bucks..
pm me if interested...will sell for less vinny |
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mattisdx Inner circle 1614 Posts |
I think it's great. if your just starting out learning card sleights, or just want to learn how to cheat at cards, than $50 for the dvd is really a steal !
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GuardT34 New user 74 Posts |
Ya its finaly selling at a decent affordable price now,theirs no way I would pay $200 for a video, I could buy a hand full of videos and books on cards for that amount or better yet "shhhh"
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
This isn't just about cards but how cheats steal chips cards , money///////etc,,,,, and how to avoid being cheated
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JasonEngland V.I.P. Las Vegas, NV 1728 Posts |
I thought the material on the tape was marginal at best. Brandon shows many moves that are obsolete, and doesn't even do them very well. His books were decent, even though he came across as some sort of super-cheat that was never caught. The truth is he wasn't down with that many plays, so it's no wonder he wasn't caught.
Buy the books, skip the DVD. Jason
Eternal damnation awaits anyone who questions God's unconditional love. --Bill Hicks
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slakk New user 100 Posts |
Is this by the guy on the Discovery Channel? If so, he says he did this for 10 years and was never caught. He retired for life with millions.
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magicmanchris Regular user 113 Posts |
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On 2004-08-02 23:00, JasonEngland wrote: What books did he write?
your magic is only real when you believe it's real.
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Mesquita Special user 917 Posts |
Anyon can explain why the price diminish like that on l&l publish ?? ( $200 for $50 )
"Siempre somos tres me acompaña la luna y me sigue mi sombra" René Lavand
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
I guess he was trying to make a quick kill///
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Mesquita Special user 917 Posts |
I forgotto comment , before on VHS ($200), now on DVD ($50).
"Siempre somos tres me acompaña la luna y me sigue mi sombra" René Lavand
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JasonEngland V.I.P. Las Vegas, NV 1728 Posts |
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On 2004-08-02 23:10, slakk wrote: Yes, it's the same guy. And don't buy it when he says he cheated for 10 years and retired with millions. He did a few things...that's true. And he had a great teacher. That's true. But the part about being active for 10 years and quitting with millions...not true. Unless you count a handful of casino plays spread out over 10 years. That's not quite as glamorous, but it's the truth. Jason
Eternal damnation awaits anyone who questions God's unconditional love. --Bill Hicks
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Ron Giesecke Special user Redding, Ca. 947 Posts |
The books are:
Cheating at Blackjack, and Advantage Play Cheating at Blackjack (squared}. I have the books, and the video. The video is nice, insofar as a real-time performance of some of the moves help bring them into relief from a (sometimes) aggravating text. In all, the books are pretty interesting. Anybody thinking they're going to catapault themselves into card-cheating infamy with a second deal and a turnover change will quickly realize that the brain is not a backburner commodity--and that the hands are only a part of the picture. Ron |
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GuardT34 New user 74 Posts |
I seen a brief clip of his doing a blackjack stack for his agent, a peek, and a tiny jog marked for cutting for his agent on either "Casino cheaters beware" or "Secrets" on Travel channel, he breifly explained that the techniques he used were so powerful that they didn't need to be done all the time, and that he never had a losing session with his agent with whome he was colluding.
I'm sure the making millions was just to hype it up a bit and make sells ? |
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Unknown419 Inner circle 1321 Posts |
This area of cheating was new to me therefore it went over my head. I thought it was okay.
I guess it's my turn to wear the dunce cap. Duh! Doc |
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Pekka Special user Finland 560 Posts |
I liked it in a way that it is nice to see how one could cheat in blackjack. But, it is not too useful for me.
One info bi for us foreigners. The black jack played is American style, face down hole cards. In europe there are less possibilities to cheat since all the cards are face up on the table and players don't usually touch the cards. That is, at least in England and Finland where I have played. |
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IanKendall Special user Edinburgh 571 Posts |
I got the impression that Brandon/Dustin was a wee bit too intense at times...
One thing that did occour to me; the VHS came on two tapes, and the DVD is only one hour long. Were the tapes 30 minutes each, or was there some material that was culled for the rerelease (and in true L&L style, are we due for volumes two to sixteen?) Take care, Ian |
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Dizzy Elite user UK 437 Posts |
Is there a place in the UK that will supply the DVDs or books?
Dizzy |
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slakk New user 100 Posts |
Does anyone know this Dustin Marks/Brandon? He said he was a dealer and dealt to partners posing as players. It seems illogical that he only did this a handful of times over a period of ten years. (Jason)On what do you base your information?
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JasonEngland V.I.P. Las Vegas, NV 1728 Posts |
I've heard this information over a number of years from a variety of well-posted individuals. I'd rather not name any specific people, but just know that their names would be instantly recognized on this board. At least one of them has even been on the Café before.
Jason
Eternal damnation awaits anyone who questions God's unconditional love. --Bill Hicks
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