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MarkRobertson
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I don't know when Mr. Stone, the Ben in Delben, started making his hangers. I bought my set in the early 80's at the shop.

I used to hang out at Ben's shop, as a college kid in Springfield, Missouri. He was proud of the difference in his key. His gaff is on the "back" side of the hook, this gave you the ability to hang the hanger on another and then flip the hanger for a one hand crash link.
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While probing through some of my old Genii mags, I found an ad for a set of linking coathangers from Stanfield's in East Point, GA. The gimmick was similar to the Biro/Caveny gimmick, but it locked. It may have used regular type coathangers.

It was produced in 1956. This was not the version that had the extra wire.

Ben Stone introduced his linking coathangers in the late 1970's.
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How and where can I get my hands on a set of these linking coat hangers? Any reference to a website? Or anyone wanting to sell his/hers? Thanks.
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The only ones currently available, I believe, are Mike Caveney's. He lists them on his web site. http://www.mcmagicwords.com/ Click on "Tricks" in the menu.
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I wish I had kept notes on the date when I first made up the hangars. Could have been in the '70s bit my feeble brain can't pull a date.
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On 2007-05-15 00:30, Bill Palmer wrote:
The only ones currently available, I believe, are Mike Caveney's. He lists them on his web site. http://www.mcmagicwords.com/ Click on "Tricks" in the menu.


Thanks, Bill. Will look into it so I can have a set too.
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On 2006-11-02 13:59, plasticdestiny wrote:
Mr Biro,

My coathangers and DVD just arrived from Mike Caveney, and on the DVD he credits you for the idea.

I'll add my personal thank you for a great idea.


Wondering, how are you getting on with your coat hangers...?

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I saw someone on tv do this trick and it was pretty cool

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Yes, that was the Caveney routine. I saw the same special.

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Going back to what Pete said about Richard Himber making up a few sets of stainless steel coathangers with a locking key ..... there was a set on eBay (the listing expired last night) from a seller in Las Vegas. The "opening" bid he put up (with a reserve not met) was $500.00 US, with a Buy It Now of only $1,750.00! What a deal! To quote the text: "One of very few sets of Richard Himber's Linking Coat hangers. Likely made by Connie Hadon in the same fashion as the 3 Himber set of Linking Rings. This may be one of only 3 sets made."
For some unknown reason, it ended with no bidders. I was very tempted to bid, but then I realized that my well worn set of linking coathangers that I bought from Mike Caveney back in the late 70's might get jealous. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't pay that much for linking coathangers if a piece of Houdini was attached to it! (although I guess if it came signed with a COA I might....)

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I bought a set of his coathangers from Mike Caveney shortly after he came out with the effect. In practicing with them I managed to damage/break the "key" hanger. I found a local metal worker who was able to fabricate a duplicate using 1/4" cold rolled steel. I had him make several sets which I then had nickel plated. I sent one set to Mike Caveney, gave one set to Fred Kaps and, as I recall, one set to Scotty York and kept one set for myself. Since they are made of steel they are virtually indestructable and have a "ring" to them -- not unlike a set of linking rings -- that the aluminum ones lack. I assume Mike still has the set I gave him, Scotty (if I remember correctly) likewise but have no idea whatever became of the set I gave to Fred Kaps.
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On 2004-08-03 14:54, Pete Biro wrote:
Well, here is the scoop.

I don't know the date of the Delben version, however... many years ago I stumbled onto a coat hangar in a department store that was made of aluminum and the material was almost 1/4-inch thick. I bought about a dozen of them.

Taking them home, I worked out a way to make an invisible-ish key, similar to Jerry Andrus' linking pin, hiding it in the curl of the hangar near the hook.

I made up three sets, gave one each to Fred Kaps and Terry Seabrooke, keeping one.

Caveney saw these and worked out his own routine, making up some of the same hangars, and I was told he literally bought out all he could from the manufacturer.

I understand that Richard Himber had made up some custom sets of stainless steel with a locking key, similar to his locking key linking ring set.

I kick myself daily for not marketing this first (Before Caveney) and not buying a 300SL Mercedes Gullwing that was offered to me for $7,000 (they now fetch well over $100,000).


What people don't know is that Pete did buy a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee. As a result he is featured on page 24 of the AARP Magazine for July & August 2009!

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I have a set of Caveney's Linking Coathangers and also have a set of these coathangers too.

They are made slightly differently from the Caveney ones, they are thinner and the hook part rotates, and as you can see from the link provided they allow for some quite different linking techniques.

I've played around pretty extensively with both sets and both have features that commend them.

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Sorry to revive this thread yet again. But it seems fitting to post this here.

I've been looking at adding a linking coat hanger routine to my regular show and I've stumbled across these that are made in Australia. Anyone have any dealings with this guy before? I like the price, $60, but I'm unsure.

I'd love a set of Mike Caveney's hangers but they are a little on the pricey side at the moment.

Anyway, thanks in advance.

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But they are a KNOCKOFF!!!! When you buy this cr@p, you are supporting theft. They are not made in Australia. They are made in China.

There is a copy of a Porper Strong Box on the big auction site right now that the fellow claims is not a copy, but is a "generic" one. BULLPUCKEY!!!! IT'S A KNOCKOFF!!!

He even has a copy of the Porper instructions with it.

Remember, every time you buy a cheap knockoff version of someone's trick, you are stealing from them.

The people that make these tricks, the originals, I mean, are actual human beings. They make at least part of their living from selling their ORIGINAL creations. Although Pete inspired the Caveney set, the routine Caveney does is his and his alone.

The thieves can rationalize these things many different ways, "It's not patented. Mine has the gaff on the other side of the doodad. Mine uses blue coathangers instead of silver ones."

In the final analysis, it's the same BULLPUCKEY that all the greedy losers are spouting.
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I echo Bills post. I would also add that you will find in most of these knock-offs you will get a much inferior product that will not be as well made. While the value of many magic props rises in time the knock-offs will not. You never go wrong with buying the original.


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I understand and agree with buying (or not buying) knockoffs. However I completely forgot to put the link to his site. So as to not be accusing someone of something they've not done I feel I should just double check we're talking about the same guy: http://www.mrrexmagic.com/index.php?opti......Itemid=5

Also, and this is a question to those who own Mike's set, have you ever had a problem with the thickness of the hanger?

They seem quite a bit thicker than regular hangers.

Many thanks,

Ros

Posted: Oct 21, 2011 3:13am
Just to update.

I emailed the online store above and although they're still available on his website he told me he no longer makes them. The key hanger in this instance was a locking key. Don't know if this is the same method as Mike's as I'm not familiar with the linking pins either.

One thing re theft.

Is it theft if someone creates a new method for the same effect or is that classed as something new?

And what constitutes a new method? How different would it have to be?
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I have and use Mike Caveney's hangers and the thickness is no problem at all - they are after all real coathangers. Like most things, coathangers now come in many different sizes, thicknesses, colours and styles. They don't look like cheap wire hangers - they look like more substantial good quality hangers - which of course is what they are.
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Sounds great!

I think I'll be adding the hangers to next season's show.
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When I first devised my linking coat hangers, I made them from hangers I found in a store. Caveney bought the same ones, actually finding the manufacturer. So they are real coat hangers.
Size matters, thin wire one will not show up well... these are a good thickness for seeing well and durability.

I got an email today from a fella that bought a Chinese Copy of my Ghostly Linking Finger Ring. I hope it lasts a few days. I tested a copy of a couple of my items ripped off in China.... One broke on the third use.

They are so clever even duplicating our instruction sheets. I couldn't tell the fake from ours until I discovered the paper size was 1/8-inch smaller than our 8.5x11.

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