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magicmind Inner circle South 3767 Posts
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Https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/stage-......et-king/
Imagine this takes a ton of practice to be efficient. Reminds me of the madison one "ARTEFACT POCKET INDEX" |
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Joe Roberts Special user 934 Posts
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Looks great. I use an index in my restaurant work that took a long time to really master. But this might be worth changing. Will wait for reviews in the meantime.
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GrandIllusion1 New user 32 Posts
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It's interesting that it says that the cards are not folded and can even be used in jeans. If I pick this up, I'll be sure to post a review.
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magicmind Inner circle South 3767 Posts
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On May 4, 2026, magicmind wrote: I meant it reminded me of ...Advocate from Daniel Madison
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benbv Inner circle London 2547 Posts
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On May 4, 2026, magicmind wrote: Exactly my thoughts - looks very similar visually, interested to hear some reviews! |
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DarksideDeceptions New user Deception Beyond the Light 8 Posts
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The effects that any index can unlock are absolutely worth it. In the end, though, it really comes down to the magician’s showmanship, dedication, and practice to make it truly effective.
I ordered a Pocket King, and it’s currently on its way to me. I’m optimistic about it. Honestly, the design and marketing alone sold me on it. I’ve been toying and practicing with other indexing methods, so I’m looking forward to comparing Pocket King to what I already know. Up to this point, I haven’t gone full force with index-based techniques because my accuracy rate is still around 88- 94% — which is completely on me, not the methods themselves. I simply need more practice and repetition. I’m hopeful that I’ll to Pocket King, and maybe it represents an evolution in indexing methods overall. I was surprised to see that it was sold out the very next day. |
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GrandIllusion1 New user 32 Posts
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I've been looking for a good one pocket index for a while, please post a review if you can DarksideDeceptions. The speed and ease of accessing the named card is definitely of interest.
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countrymaven Inner circle 1737 Posts
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It is true that the digging in the pocket or hand in the pocket was giving away things that were happening....
this looks like the solution. |
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benbv Inner circle London 2547 Posts
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Soooo… your hands never go inside your pockets but just your thumbs do?
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takeachance Inner circle 3831 Posts
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On May 9, 2026, benbv wrote: That would be a miracle. I think you would have to go in to position the card first and come out hands clean, then go back and produce the card. I'll have to get this though to find out, hard to beat Eddie Raymond's index though, that's the duck's nutz presently. |
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benbv Inner circle London 2547 Posts
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Oh right ok I see… yes maybe then! Was wondering as it’s what it seems is happening on the trailer but your description sounds more accurate, thanks!
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PatrickGregoire Inner circle 2927 Posts
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Pretty sure you only have to put your thumb in your pocket, otherwise that is one highly deceptive trailer.
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Joe Roberts Special user 934 Posts
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"Hands remain in view"
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countrymaven Inner circle 1737 Posts
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Putting your thumbs in your pocket is not suspicious. Also, remember that you could do the most incredible
Brainwave effect with this. I don't think making a card appear with a card box in your pocket is the best use of this. But if you did a Brainwave, or Invisible deck in the spectators' hands, allowing them to examine the cardss, what could be wrong with this |
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PatrickGregoire Inner circle 2927 Posts
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On May 10, 2026, countrymaven wrote: Pretty sure nobody said otherwise? We're discussing if the whole hand needs to go in or not, not whether or not putting a thumb in your pocket is suspicious. From my understanding, only the thunb needs to go in. |
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DarksideDeceptions New user Deception Beyond the Light 8 Posts
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Ok, Just got my package in the mail Sunday 10MAY2026. I will give it a good walkthrough (no reveal of method) for fairness. I will post my thoughts to this thread. And for GrandIllusion1
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DarksideDeceptions New user Deception Beyond the Light 8 Posts
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My unboxing review of Pocket King by Darryl Vanamburg — (purchased through Penguin Magic with tutorials via Murphy's Magic Supplies). Just sharing my first impressions after opening the box, handling it, and going through the tutorials — no exposure of methods.
Does it live up to the trailer? Absolutely.(I say 100%, no hype, because it actually does) Darryl’s passion, precision, and attention to detail are obvious right away (He thinks like us Magician's - meticus). He’s taken indexing and turned it into an art form. From what I’ve seen so far, the product delivers exactly what the trailer promises. Now, you will need to Practice. It will not magically deliver the card into your hand. No index will. I also wouldn’t dismiss other index systems, because they each have strengths and purposes. In the end, like any index, the real power comes from the performer’s practice, presentation, and precision. Pocket King still requires dedication and “perfect practice,” but I can already tell the potential is there. Overall, I’m impressed and will proceed to use it. Darryl clearly went above and beyond, introducing thoughtful techniques and refinements that make the system smooth. I think with enough practice, this is a precise and powerful index. If you are thinking about it. I would wait to see a review from some credible magic reviewer on youtube to make a decision. I hope this helps. to GrandIllusion1 and to all.... |
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DarksideDeceptions New user Deception Beyond the Light 8 Posts
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May I also add — of course the trailer is designed to create hype and strong reactions. What I mean by “no hype” is that Darryl’s continuous-shot footage actually is achievable once you understand the depth of the thinking and techniques behind teaches you.
It will definitely take work and practice on your end, but I personally believe it’s worth it. That said, I would never personally perform it exactly like the trailer with spectators burning my hands the entire time. I’d still rely on misdirection, timing, and off-beat moments. |
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benbv Inner circle London 2547 Posts
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Thank you for this!
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DarksideDeceptions New user Deception Beyond the Light 8 Posts
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Okay first day with Pocket King and it is fantastic! It's incredibly accurate (as the pictures show) nothing to hide - small as a deck. I still need to explore a lot more in practice. I would say it's best suited for the specific Jeans Pocket opening, but it can adapt to any pocket; however, doing so might lessen its purpose of the 'thumb only deception' - keeping hands out of pockets. I'd almost want to call this the Non Pocket Index in a way, seemingly you actually never place your hand into your pocket. It takes me back to the old 'Dove Steal' days with the Tuxedo - haha. Overall, it's inspiring. It also encourages me to reinvest my practice in other Index techniques to become more versatile with them. Nothing wrong with in pocket indexes for routines that don't require immediate access or perhaps a folded - semi-folded card for loading into an Altoids Mint Can, Sankey Paper Clip, etc., which you would NOT do with this Index, as the trailer hints at. But don't just take my word for it. Wait to hear what the professional reviewers say, especially considering the price point. Darryl Vanamburg's dedication is evident in this precise tool. This is an Index; I believe Shin Lim would use in a live on TV performance, given the eyes on - burning his every move situation. Anyway - keep those ideas flowing. Cheers!
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