I don't think anyone is watching this thread much any more, which is fair enough.

If anyone out there is doing Sherlock, try starting with the stack in reverse order, then at the conclusion of the trick you will be counting upwards instead of backwards. I have got quite used to counting the stack numbers backwards for this trick, but I reckon counting up is a bit easier on the brain at the key time. During this last phase you really have to focus on following the numbers and pattering naturally, all at the same time.

I hope that helps someone out there in the ether.

Thank you will certainly give that a go. Leaves me in position to do my favourite ACAAN which is Allan Ackermans version which needs the stack in reverse order which makes the calculations a piece of cake.