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I already own Mr. Strivings' "Sight Unseen Case I" which is a terrific utility peek and switching device. The "Caper Case", which I believe is manufactured by Piatt, is a peek device that can be handed out to the spectator to hold, unlike the SUC which cannot, but I do not believe it is a switching device.

Is the "Caper Case" a good item to have in addition to the SUC or is the SUC is suffcient?

Thank you very much.

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Depending on the routine of course,I have two effects where I have the spec hold the SUC.
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By giving the spectator the SUC to hold, aren't you taking a (unnecessary) chance of the spectator to turn over the SUC while holding it or when he/she gives it back to you?
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Maybe I don't care if they turn it over?
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I think the SUC and the Caper Case are both excellent peek cases.

However, it seems to me that handing a peek case to a spectator to hold as part of your routine is calling undue attention to the case. One should try to underplay its use by getting the case out of the sight and mind of the spectators as soon as possible.

In this way, the mindreading becomes the focal point, not the case.

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While I certainly respect Myster's opinion on his handling of the SUC, I will have to agree with Mysticz's viewpoint that there is no need to hand the spec the case. It is just a card holder and should just be put away into your pocket.

Magicinsight, Myster, Mysticz. Do I see a possible trend here...MMM
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It's the Mind,Myth and Magic isn't it?

Hello? In my routine the SUC is not used as a peek case.

The spec holding it is what makes this routine so baffeling.

Can't say any more here.
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I agree with Myster's implied remark that the power of SUC is not in its peek abilities but as a device to help make predictions on billets that are taken from inside the SUC itself. With the SUC a very powerful prediction effect(s) can be accomplished. A prediction is claimed to have been written on a card/slip of papaer that is contained inside the SUC and then handed to the spec to hold. The spec reveals the thought of word, date, name, etc. and the performer retrieves the SUC from the spec to take out the slip of paper from inside the SUC which is shown to have written on it the very same name, date, etc. thought of by the spec.

If this is the type of routine suggested by Myster, then yes I agree that it is very baffeling.

Because I believe that the caper case is strictly a peek device, this type of effect cannot be accomplished by the caper case and therefore the SUC I or 2 is more versatile than the caper case. If I am incorrect in my assumption, please let me know.

Best reagrds MMM,

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Stealing,yes. Or maybe something was never there? Even
more bizarre.
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Ah ha! Now you see it, now you don't. Hmmm...
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On 2004-08-20 06:36, magicinsight wrote:
Because I believe that the caper case is strictly a peek device, this type of effect cannot be accomplished by the caper case and therefore the SUC I or 2 is more versatile than the caper case. If I am incorrect in my assumption, please let me know.


Hi guys,

First of all let me state emphatically that the Caper Case is a wonderful device and does what it does in great fashion. Having said that, the CC is strictly a peek device and no, you cannot do what was described in the earlier post with it.

With regards to versatility, there is no comparison between the CC and the SUC. I have said it before, I'll say it again. The SUC is THE most versatile gimmicked business card case available anywhere in the world at any price, period. Plus it has the vastly overlooked advantage of appearing like a completely normal everyday business card case. There is no other case in existence that can do all of the things that the SUC (either version) can do and still look like a completely normal case. Think of the SUC as a Swiss Army Knife for the mentalist and you're at least somewhat on the right track. None of this is hype, it's simply the truth.

If you'd like more info drop me a note at MarkyApril@aol.com and I'll be glad to fill you in. Hope this helps.

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Giving the SUC to a spec to hold IS NOT drawing attention to it, if handled properly it will eliminate the heat on it, the old, give the spectator something and they will lose interest in it.

btw mark strivings

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