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The Donster
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Ian Thanks for Clearing Things Up.
Ian McColl
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Dear Don, which part was not clear?

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"Norman Bigelow used to occasionally open all the locks on a milk can, trunk, etc. after he escaped, leaving the device unlocked and open when he came into view.
This caused the audience to say to themselves, "Wait a minute; he was INSIDE and the locks were on the OUTSIDE! How in the ...?!?""

This is exactly what I was talking about. To me, this makes the escape look like an escape, rather than a magic trick. In my mind, if someone's locked up and escapes leaving everything locked and sealed, there's obviously a trick. If everything gets opened up, you know how the performer did it. You may not know the exact method, and you may not be able to do it yourself, but you know the performer picked the locks and got out.

I think this is part of what makes the difference between an escape artist and a magician who does some escapes.
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And yet Houdini, at his height, had challenge packing cases made up, with each board further re-nailed before he was nailed inside.
He escaped leaving the box still nailed shut, roped and intact. The end result was viewed as a highly-mysterious escape, and not an illusion, due to the 'legitimacy' of the presentation.

Steve
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This is true. You know, I start out thinking one thing. Then other bits of information come along, and my brain attempts to process it, and comes to the conclusion that that bit of information is true. However the new bit of information is the direct opposite of the old information that I've already been believing. My brain figures that both things can't be right at the same time, however, they both can't be wrong. And then something fizzles, something snaps, and I have to take a couple asprin and go practice double lifts for a while.
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That's because talking the psychology of deception is like talking philosophy in France: there are no final, concrete answers; everything is ripe for further Socratic discussion.
Isn't it wonderful?

Steve
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Steve Baker - Mr.Escape
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Hi Everyone,

Every one of you have made some good points,
Dr.Midnight has the most!
What we all need to do is take a deep breath,
exhail,now what's our goal... To entertain!
Not each other,but our audience(the paying public)!

When you have made them respond to your performance,
or touched them in a way that makes them remember that
performance....THAT"S what is IMPORTANT !

NOT a lock,locked or unlocked! NOT a rope,tied or
untied,but the fact that you made them glad you
ESCAPED!

I always left the locks,LOCKED....The knots TIED!
They don't remember that,They only remember I ESCAPED!

So work on your own style,your own presentation,Be
UNIQUE!

I'll get off my soapbox now..... But I know what I'm
talking about! Been there,Done it,Got the T-shirt!!!

Steve Baker,MR. ESCAPE
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Exactly, Steve.

As Prynce Wheeler once wrote: "You are the entertainer. Your job is to entertain. Some make the grade; some don't. Best of success."

Steve
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I agree with relocking. It tends to throw off people in the know, making them believe there was some other method.

Mr Baker summed it up very well:

"NOT a lock,locked or unlocked! NOT a rope,tied or
untied,but the fact that you made them glad you
ESCAPED!"

Its easy to lose sight of the spectator's mind with things that don't matter much.

Nice discussion.
...think not that all wisdom is in your school. You may have studied other paths,but, it is important to remember that no matter who you are or where you come from, there is always more to learn.
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If I could add a comment. Mr. Baker hit it on the head when he mentioned the key point was to entertain the audience. And his other point was that the performer has to be likeable to the audience. Likeablity is an important ingrediant to successful entertaining. It goes for magic, escapes, singing, dancing, you name it.
WE always want the audience to remember the tricks. But the successful performer has his/her audience leaving remembering how great the PERFORMER was, not nessasarily the tricks.

Also, when they like you, they are on your side. They are rooting for you to succeed. And if you happen to fail, or god forbid something goes wrong in the show, they are with you.

Maybe it's a silly question, but how does one become likeable to the audience? Ah, good question. Make good eye contact with your audience. Smile a lot, genuine smiles too, not some fakey or phony smile. Let them know you are human. If the audience feels you are one of them, just that you have some strange power or talent, they are with you. If you come out as someone they can't relate too, you are working an uphill battle. There are many ways to come across likeable, I've just mentioned a few.

Hope that helps.
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Carn yes it does Help one might want to treat the Audience like a Good Friend to.
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