I'll be watching and buying too

I wouldn't build your hopes up to much, from what I saw on CC, Bone has about as much originality as an Elvis impersinator.

You'd be surprised. don't talk about stuff you don't know. what bone shows on his videos are nothing. He has a ton of original moves that you haven't seen before. And in addition to that he is ridiculously skilled.

So don't go rambling about something you obviously have no knowledge of.

Yeah, I heard on HIS new DVD he is using Hurons moves too.lol Hope he gets original stuff that is actually his. He has the skills, now just needs some originality.

Phantom

Haha, that didn't sound too nice did it? Oh well, stuff like Ammar's ETMCM or Malone's On the Loose are awesome DVDs but the effects aren't original, if you know what I mean. Of course these are magic DVDs, so to a certain extent I digress.

However, I don't feel that I have enough material to put on a personal XCM DVD. Therefore putting 2 moves in the midst of many other of Bone's original moves can't be too bad. =D

Huron

Yes but they're not his. For making a xcm dvd like ctg, orignality is key.

XFactor

Yes originality is the Key.

When I spoke to Bone a few times during the CC days he used to put on his webcam and show me the things I had already seen on Superhandz.com and he'd show me CTG and the Heaven Display which I don't own myself, (didn't I see somewhere that it had to be kept off the Internet to keep it underground and not to expose what it was) then he'd do his square cut like the picture of it on Superhandz.

Most of the people I spoke to were saying have you seen Bones CTG routine lol, he even had it posted on the net for a while not sure if its still flying about.

He even takes De'vo's style - backgrounds, clothes, his bracelet and watch lol

So CLJ I can post this because I do know what I am talking about and as you can see I do have much knowledge Thank You.

Yes, I know Bone was putting out videos of De'vo's King Cobra cut, his Heaven Display, his version of CTG, and yes, he shouldn't of done that. Especially not the Cobra which he didn't own the performance rights to. Modifying De'vo's moves and going behind De'vo's back to show everyone. Not cool. Anything De'vo put out, Bone tried to imitate. Sad but true.

I'm not sure that superhandz will end up making his DVD. He did many things that I'm sure De'vo didn't like and is everything that De'vo hates. Copycats. Even though Bone has mad skills, De'vo and his companies are all about pushing the boundries and being original. Things that Bone is not. And really, if you want to be hooked up with De'vo, then whatever you do, DO NOT take his moves without permission like the Cobra, or his Viereck(when Bone copied it, it wasn't for the public yet). You know what I'm sayin? lol

Only time will tell.

I love handlordz, superhandz, Kartenmeister World and the other places. Yes, I bring the latest news and info for fello lovers of Xtreme Card Manipulation to our little world in this magic forum. I also have a flourish magazine that I write and distribute for and is how I originally met them.

BUT I'm still a person. Bone is a superhandz guy, and if I was part of the superhandz team which I am not, then I'd back him 100%. But since I'm not a member of the team, but a huge fan of theirs, I can still speak my mind. And I think that it was messed that he went behind De'vo's back and made videos of some things that De'vo and his companies went out of their way to say "do not make video of this".

Bone man, you did give those videos to many more people than De'vo, and you know it.

For the black backgrounds, music, sound effect and so forth, yes, that's superhandz style. As far as Bone goes, he's superhandz so it's encouraged. KAMs video was superhandz produced so they had him against a black background and made original music. It's a superhandz style thing. All their videos are done like that. Bone's jewelry and bracelet, same. De'vo and Jerry encourage jewerly like Bone posted. That's all true and I'm not debating it.

All we are saying is that for Bone's DVD, I wish for truly original stuffs. Not variations or knockoffs. And we all stated we were a little worried because Bone is a GREAT IMITATOR! But we have not seen him create anything yet.

And I stated that I'm not sure if Superhandz will produce it because of what he has done in the past. Again, for the last time(hopefully), only time will tell.

Phantom

FALSE INFO.

-First, I do not know you.
-Second, I did not expose CTG meterials
-Third, I did not make CTG video putting on the net. If you've found it somewhere, show it out and prove that I have DONE the WRONG thing.

I talked to De'vo alot, I'm a superhandz dude and student of De'vo - the leader of the group was the person who gave me all advice and everything I need to improve myself, even to wear Jewellries in my performance, even Jerry does the same thing too. It is no surprise that I have similar style of making my videos with De'vo - Black BG, black clothes, music, sounds... We are friends it is just good to listen to each other. What you're trying to do is to separate us.

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No, I wasn't making video of these moves putting out for public, the only one has the videos is De'vo. I made for him.



Yes, I agree that. Everybody knows CTG is a masterpeice, it's just diffirent - nothing can compare with. It is the first DVD includes all original stuffs. No one has ever done this, even CAP, BUCKS, TUDOR, JERRY... something you need to understand.


B.

Anyone and everyone that looks at the flourish threads know that phantomace does nothing but try to promote devo and all the superhandz/handlordz products. Its like he freaking works for them, and if you don't you should, maybe you could make some mulla for all these posts. Secondly, just because someone wheres black in there video doesn't mean they are copies. It just means they wore black. What since Ammar wore a blue shirt in his video then I'm copying from him, because I wore a blue shirt in my video. As for the watch and all the other crap, please people. Give it up for a while. If your so worried about the stuff people are wearing then your missing the whole point of the video in itself. I watch a video to see material, I could care less what the guy wore.

It's like me saying Sankey was the first one to do a DVD with music only (his 45 DVD) and everyone is coping him. Who cares. Sorry for even starting this post!

Bone DVD looks like it will be done in Colorado. Should be very cool!

Phantom

Too bad it isn't done in IL.
I could go meet Bone then.

I never Knew B. would make a vid. ma, I have to get this:D

A simple thread becomes a dramatic opera show.(Totally agree with monark110)
What's the big deal here?

I am not here to speak up or back Mr Bone, I just one that appreciate freaks or aliens with mad skills and handz like De'vo, Jerry, Kam, ....blah blah many many more and Bone.

I luv xtrme manipulation, but neither am I skillful or talented, so I do respect those great dudes alot, they had made all these XCM so enjoyable to watch.
Cheers

Nice one slumpy.

I agree, Bone is not one to be compared... neither is Jerry or De'vo or any of the other XCM'ers for that matter.

They're all on a different level, and they do different stuff(s). No need to rant about who's who... I enjoy watching Bones' stuff(s) as much as De'vo's.

When his DVD comes out, I hope I can get a signed copy... and another box of chocolates! Hehe.

-Kev

Yep. This DVD will be hot!

Bone has the best hands in the East and is highly regarded in the XCM world.

Can't wait.

Antz

He is not highly regaurded in the XCM world. All I've heard was that he was a copycat. I even heard he was copying the handlordz challenges.lol He already had a challenge just like them. please, he has good hands, but that's about it. People that are highly regarded are Pia, Yoseph, marius Jr., Jerry, De'vo, but not Bone. he's not original and not a creator. He's a mechanic. A good mechanic, but no more than that.

I wouldn't be surprised if he tried copying HL and superhandz with his new website. I heard he already plans to use their ideas. Boi can't be original to save his life.

Jinx