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Just to set the record straight.

I would like to know which magicians did not perform professionaly but somehow contributed to the art of Magic.

I would say Alex Elmsley is one. Stewart James (postman) and Ed Marlo?

And what are their real profession?
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Ed Marlo did perform professionaly and at one time was part owner in a bar that he and a small group of magicians turned into a magic bar.

His wife did not like the late nights and Ed Getting back when the sun was coming up.

Ed DID have a successful performing life as a professional magician. And his books show that because they have effects in them that he performed.
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J.G. Thompson, Jr. was a bank president who loved magic and was a very talented amateur. He invented a number of effects, mostly mental effects. The "J.G. Thompson Coin" is available from Johnson Products for its Okito coin boxes. Although he may have performed professionally, I'm not aware of it.

He wrote numerous books, including MY BEST, which I believe you can still obtain from Hank Lee and other dealers. The book is a compilation of effects from other amateur magicians. I think he was good friends with Bill Severn, who authored CLASSIC SECRETS OF MAGIC and a number of other excellent magic books. SETH
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Was Gen. U.F. Grant a performer? I know he invented a TON of stuff, but did he actually have a stage show or anything?
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I know Ed Marlo was a die cutter by profession.
Joe Porper makes pool cues.
Vernon cut sillhoutettes.
Curtis Kam's a lawyer.
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Let's not forget David Regal in this list. To my knowledge he is mainly a TV writer.
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There are also several fellows who gave up promising careers to go into magic full time. For example, Terry Seabrooke gave up a promising career as an insurance salesman.

Anyone know what Joe Stevens did before he became a magic dealer?
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He played semi pro basketball and sold Fuller Brush. He would have played professional but when he worked for Fuller Brush over the summer he made so much he could not afford to quit to play basketball.

Caryle Fleming was a Bank President. W. W. Durbin was a politician, lawyer and businessman who almost single handly got the IBM off the ground. He also had the first magic convention.

Billy Russel was the Mayor of Batavia. Harold Rice was an art professor. Russ Walsh was an executive in a Steel company.

The guys that made their fortunes 100% in magic are few and and far between. Either they made their money elsewhere or their is old family money. But this is no way to say they were not great contributors or performers to our art.
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I believe, Milt Kort, was an amature. He was a pharmacist.
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Lloyd E. Jones: Pharmacist
Dr. Albo: Disney Animator
Albert Goshman: Bagel Baker and children's portrait photographer
Billy McComb: Doctor but never went into practice
Dariel Fitzkee: Audio Engineer
Milt Larsen: Comedy Writer
Bill Larsen Jr.: TV Producer
Bill Larsen Sr.: Laywer
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Carol Roy: Figure Skater
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I found the same was true of many of the very successful recording artists. That is that they had other businesses, trades or methods of generating income. They simply enjoyed performing professionally.
While by others' standards they made top dollar as stage entertainers and recording artists, it was only one of their interests.

I remember generating some good bookings for Roy Orbison in the 60s, just to be turned down because he needed to look at some oil fields.

One advantage of talented people, is that they tend to have no problem walking and chewing gum at the same time. Some are very good managers of their own time and resources and live very balanced lives.

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Pete Biro wrote:

Dr. Albo: Disney Animator
Was this before he was a neurosurgeon?
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You beat me to that one, Bill. Yes, he worked for Disney before becoming a surgeon. I think he's an orthopedic surgeon.

For those of youwho are curious about exploring this topic further, check out J.G. Thompson's My Best. It has 20 pp. and probably over 120 short biographical sketches of magicians, pros and non-pros alike. Also check out Goldston's Who's Who in Magic, which has about 113 pages of biographical sketches conveniently broken down into pro, semi-pro and non-pro categories. The same book was also issued as part of Tricks that Mystify (a 4 in 1 book). Also try Dorny's Trix & Chatter, which also provides biographical details on several non-pros.

Happy reading!
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Dr. Albo is the physician for the SF Raiders
or which ever football team in the bay area

As far the full-time magicians who actually
made a career out of it back in the day
when you could did not rely on any other
source or family money. They strictly either
built magic and/or did my parent's,
Jim Sommers, Jay Marshall (almost), George Johnstone,
etc etc.
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