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magicman222 Regular user 168 Posts 
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Check this site out, its pretty cool. they have lots of original tricks for sale and for cheap. the owner made up some neat sleightgs, the best though is the "chance" which sells a couple tricks, submitted by inventors whihc are extremely original and very good, I highly recomend checking this site.
http://www.streetmagictrainor.com http://www.streetmagictrainor.com/shop5.htm for the chance (i am in no way affiliated with this site) |
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Chris Gold New user 83 Posts
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Can you please explain what a street magic trainor is?
Chris Gold
TS Entertainment INC Hollywood, CA |
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magicman222 Regular user 168 Posts
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Street Magic Trainor is the name of the site who sells effects submitted by everyday magicians.
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts
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Should that be spelled "trainer?"
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Magicbyhabit New user 22 Posts
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On 2004-09-07 05:55, whithaydn wrote: It's a trademark. The "O" stands for original magic and doubles as an original spelling. Kinda clever. |
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Curmudgeon Loyal user Iowa 245 Posts
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On 2004-09-07 21:11, Magicbyhabit wrote: Edit |
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Chris Gold New user 83 Posts
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On 2004-09-07 21:11, Magicbyhabit wrote: Clever? Actually, it's silly. How many people will know that? To me it's just another person on the internet trying to make a buck off of magic.
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TS Entertainment INC Hollywood, CA |
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Bill Scarlett Veteran user Vermont 366 Posts
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Who is the "street magic trainor"??
I tend to buy from someone who has earned a reputation as an expert in their field through real world experience. Guys like Cellini,Gazzo or Whit will get my money any day because I know what they have accomplished, have seen them work and they have my respect as performers. It's going to take more than a catchy name to get me to patronize the "street magic trainor(sic)" So who is he or she? What is their experience? Where do they work? Where did they get their chops and what are their qualifications to train others? Just curious. |
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Magicbyhabit New user 22 Posts
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On 2004-09-25 10:59, Bill Scarlett wrote: Hmm... good attitude. Clearly nobody can have any good ideas in magic without at least 15 yrs experience... ???? |
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Curmudgeon Loyal user Iowa 245 Posts
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On 2004-09-25 21:51, Magicbyhabit wrote: That 15 years of experience helps make me decide if I am going to spend the money for a product. I would much rather spend 35 to 50 dollars on a book from an established magician than spend 8.99 for a half hearted idea on download from a website by someone that I haven't heard of,but that is just me. Books have more material for the money,yeah sometimes the initial price is scary but you know you will find more than one effect in them and then it is worth the money. There are too places on the internet to burn a newcomer in magic with an instant download that isn't really cost effective. Just my opinion. |
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El_Lamo Special user Canada 589 Posts
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There is another discussion here at magic Café that may provide more information about the site. If you are interested then please click on this Caveat Emptor link.
Cheers - El Lamo
Life is a system of circumstance presented coincidently in an illusory way.
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts
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Also check out this link:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=110 I thought I'd throw in a quick explanation for those that can't read all the stuff: #1 - His latest effect has false advertising and claims "100% originality" even though that is not the case. #2 - His website has many lies(he calls them "jokes") on it, which are apparently only funny to him. Be wary of what you read. #3 - About 2 months ago his "Brother" used his account to ask for reviews of his own book because it "looked good" and he was "considering buying it". Even if it was his brother, he is still caught in lies because he says he gave his brother the book for free a year ago, but the post by the "brother" was 2 months ago. Be very very very careful, his selection of magic seems to be either rip-offs of other people's effects or classic moves where no legal action can be taken against him. I would recommend not buying anything from him as most of the reviews I've found are not-flattering to his grammer, overall proffesionalism and the effects themselves, which are sub-par rehashes of other's effects. Good luck! |
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Magicbyhabit New user 22 Posts
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You really just have a case of over-stubborness and taking things too personally daegs. You know that I've justified every one of your foolish claims. Unfortunately, your problem is incurable. All I can recommend is just relaxing and stop taking yourself so seriously.
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts
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You're right, you have justified all my claims.
You've justified my claim that you are lieing on your site, you've justified my claim that you don't respect magic, you've justified my claim that your stuff is un-original and you've justified my claim that there are certainly many lies surrounding your "brother" and your book review. Perhaps you meant that you refuted /rebutted my claims??? Think before you type. Just for your own peace of mind, I'm very relaxed and I don't take myself seriosly at all, but thanks for attacking my character to mask the issue of your own misdeed's. |
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truthteller Inner circle 2584 Posts
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Justify/rationalize...neither words are synonymous with "answered."
Having said that, I find this "stop taking yourself too seriously" idea (which often pervades Café threads) to be detrimental to the view that magic is an art. I think the problem we have is too many people not taking what they do seriously enough. That gives them permission to steal others ideas, offer products which have not be honed in the real world, and generally support lack luster performance ethics because, afterall, this is just "fun" right? Well, magic is an art. Sadly, too many "non-artists" have given it a position in society's view equal to that of the hackneyed drunken Birthday party clown. Watch any media event (movie, tv etc.) and notice that when they want to ridicule a performer, it is the magician (and less often, but also the mime) who plays the butt of the joke. Perhaps if we started taking ourselves seriously we would be taken seriously by those in the society in which we live. |
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Magicbyhabit New user 22 Posts
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I can take my magic seriously without "sweating the small stuff" aka senseless arguments.
Look, you're not going to hurt my soft little feelings after I've explained myself repeatedly. I'm sorry. |
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truthteller Inner circle 2584 Posts
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Credits to people whose work you have plagarized. Honestly representing ideas as variations instead of being "completely orginal." These things are not small stuff to the people whose work you are taking advantage of.
But for someone who has never spent YEARS working on a single idea, I can see how you could dismiss these concepts as trivial. And I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. Hopefully someone will get it through your thick head that what we do is important, and that it is wrong to misrepresent the published record for your own personal gain. This may be a little "game" for you and your elusive younger brother, but for some of us, magic is something to be respected. One day, when you grow up, you might realize that. |
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Magicbyhabit New user 22 Posts
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Round and round we go. Point me to the person I plagiarized and I will do the following:
- Have a normal conversation with you. - Send a formal email to this person to apologize. - Remove the trick from my site immediately. - Send a letter to everyone who bought the trick and credit the person I have plagiarized. What we do IS important. No doubt. And people should not be misrepresenting the published record for their own personal gain. That IS wrong. 100% What you seem to be missing is that I am not guilty of doing this. |
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truthteller Inner circle 2584 Posts
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http://www.streetmagictrainor.com/thechance.htm
Sealed Signature is a trick which was created and released commercially by George Schindler. It is touted on your site for its creativity. Please send the email you promised to George and apologize for selling an effect on your site which is ripping him off. Then you might want to apologize to anyone who has read your description of the Card Stab effect which promises that it "bears no recognition to anything your spectators have ever seen." The trick dates back hundreds of years, so your advertisement is a lie. And I found this quote quite telling from your site: "Gregory Wilson is truly the king, almost the founder, of magic with ordinary objects." Your understanding of the history of magic really needs to be expanded. |
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Magicbyhabit New user 22 Posts
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George's method is NOT the same.
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