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Clarioneer
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All time is spent on the moves (mini playlets) - how you put them together is entirely up to you so can be one minute or 10 minutes long - all the moves flow together as you always end up in the same place bar start/end. I doubt you would ever do EXACTLY the same full routine twice (it's that simple/good) so simple you can react to whatever wows the specs eyes on the fly Smile

For anyone with the DVD - pay attention to lickety split end switch - Richard actually uses this move quite often even though he says he's doing a basic end switch and it's a lot easier (for me at least)

PS - Wasn't Richard Sanders in Friends playing Ross Smile

Posted: Oct 23, 2004 7:55am
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It's sooooo visual and can be done surrounded/anywhere... not only that - anyone that takes notice will be the one to approach - it would be like a calling card...
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Wow!! I just received the DVD last Monday and I haven't come up for air yet. What a fantastic DVD!!

To answer many questions asked:

1. "Three Ropes and a Baby" is essentially the first 9 (or is if 12?) moves shown. In any event, the DVD is essentially TRAAB plus some alternate moves and a few additional moves. I love this fact in that I really had difficulty understanding the TRAAB manuscript. Additionally, Richard had "cleaned up" TRAAB by eliminating the first move in the manuscript (where you "join" the small rope and the long rope) in favor a much stramlined handling to accomplish the same thing. I believe the new move is the Karrell Fox move.

2. The entire routine is modular and you normally end up in one of two positions (either the "starting position" or the "end switch" position). As such, it is easy to go wherever you want to in the routine. You can do moves "out of order", you can follow the script (it Richard was even teaching one) and you can repeat and throw in a move that "wowed" the crowd again and again whereever and whenever you want.

3. Richard teaches all of the moves clearly and unhurredly. He repeats the move over and over again and from multiple angles. I especially like the fact that he always shows you each move from "behind". that is, from the magician's point of view (POV). This really helps a lot and speeds up learning in that you are not constantly having to "interpret" a move from the front and "convert" it to the magician's POV.

4. You will find that after you start playing with the moves, things (learning the moves) start to come together at a geometric rate since all of the moves start out in the basic position and the next part of most moves is the "end Switch" position. After a while, you find yourself doing those particular moves almost automatically and that leaves you free to concentrate on the essential differencse between each of the moves. What I'm trying to say is most moves, in and of themselves involves the starting position and the end switch and that these two "moves" make up 50-70% of each new move. Hence, by leatning these two moves, you are essentially 50-70% already through learning any of the new moves. And, after performing this 50-70%, you can change horses in mid-stream and do move "D" again instead of completeing move "G". Does that make any sense?

5. I agree with Clarioneer. I too like the bonus move taught called the "Lickety Split End Switch" better than the normal "End Switch". They are essentially the same move except for a MINIMAL hand adjustment right towards the end of the move. I think the "Lickety Split End Switch" is a lot more deceptive and easier to learn.

6. This routine is PERFECT for street magic, close-up magic, parlour magic and stage magic.

7. This routine starts out doing the Professor's Nighmare, then goes into a 2 rope routine using the long and the short ropes. And finally, the routine closes by re-introducing the medium rope, showing 3 equal pieces of rope and ending by having the ropes reverting back to theh 3 unequal pieces of rope. Richard also teaches a rope routine billed as a 1 rope routine (actually a 2 rope routine using the short and the long pieces of rope). Essentially, he is doing the same moves as in the 3 rope routine except he skips the Professor's Nightmare portion of the original routine and never introduces the medium rope.

8. I heartly recommend the brand of rope used by Richard. It is the Elite STAGE rope sold by Camirand Magic. It is highly visible, lies flat when cored, is EXTREMELY easy to handle and work with, and is easy to keep held in the hand just by its end. The main thing I like about this rope is the fact that when you prrpare the end by tucking in the end and adding a gob of glue, the end bulges out slightly and provides an excellent tactile feel for you to both know when you are coming to the end of your rope (pun intended) AND to keep the end from slipping out of your hand. In other words, you have a natural "gripping" end that is not obvious to the audience but will do loads for instilling conficence in you in your handling. This is the same rope that comes in the TRAAB effect. the only difference is that, in Fiber Optics, Richard has chosen to make the ropes a little bit longer and this additional length greatly enhances the visibility and the illusion.

Camirand Magic's Stage rope is 10mm in diameter; they also make a Parlor version of the rope which is 6mm in diameter. The Parlor rope is about 1/2 the price of the larger diameter rope but I find the larger diameter Stage rope easier to handle and to grip.

9. As stated by others, you can get 1-10 minutes out of this effect--depending on your presentation, the "modular" pieces used and the repeatability of certain "mods". You could also add some "pet" moves from other rope effects if you'd like (including using just one of the ropes (the medium or the long) and doing some knot "work" and/or some "ring on rope" work if you'd like--and then ending back where you started (3 uneven pieces of rope).

There is soo much good stuff here that it is easy to go on far longer than you should and bore your audience with too much of a good thing as you continue to entertain yourself.

Fiber Optics will become an instant classic in rope magic and will certainly become a staple in my repertoire. Hope this helps.

12/10

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Great Review Turk, thanks!
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How does this differ from Daryl's Rope routine? At first glance much of it sound similar.
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On 2004-10-28 21:45, MagicbyCarlo wrote:
How does this differ from Daryl's Rope routine? At first glance much of it sound similar.


It is almost similar at first glance but if you study it well, it is really different in some aspects.

Richard Sanders has moves different from others.
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Are some of the moves from three ropes & a baby?
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Most of the moves are from 3 ropes and a baby. Mr Sanders adds more visual moves which took the effect to the next level. I love it even more now!
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Is there any spectator involement in this routine?
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Well... they can examine the ropes before the routine starts and when it ends.... and they can help you hold the ropes before you end the effect... It's not really a spectator-involved kinda routine. But believe me their eyes will be glued to what you can do with the ropes. Believe me!
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Frank,

That's the ONLY down side; there is essentially no spectator involvement once the routine begins. But the moves are true 'eye candy.' The other great thing about Fiber Optics is that it uses no gimmicks, and everything can be examined before and after (and possibly even during!)

Extremely visual, eye-popping stuff!!!

If you do any kind of rope magic, Fiber Optics is a must; even if you don't use the whole routine, there are many individual moves that are alone worth the price of the DVD.

I give it a big Smile
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Here are a couple more 'downsides'

1) I think the routine is confusing and makes little sense. He really has just strung a whole bunch of moves together.

2) There is little to no patter aside from "we'll take the middle off and put it over there and then bring it back again..."

3) Some of the moves don't work well 'together' IMO. e.g. starting with professor's nightmare and showing a long rope and a short rope sort of telegraphs later on what the pieces involved are to anyone who thinks about it.


None of these points matter at all when you view the DVD as a kick ass collection of rope moves but since it is sold as a rope 'routine' I think these factors let it down a little.

However, its still one of the best collections I have ever seen! I look forward to coming up with my own routine!


(PS I DO think this is a GREAT DVD...but since everyone was being so nice I thought I'd play Devil's Advocate.)
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That's OK Nicholas, nothing should ever be unanimous; it's undemocratic. Smile
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Really? I thought it was undemocratic to question those in power...
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Just purchased this DVD. If you don't have it, get it. It's great!!
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I bought it and enjoyed it. I learned the moves that really suited me and they were immediately added to my act.

There's a lot of really good moves, and some not so good. If you have a passion for rope and want to take the time to weed out what isn't that great, then this would be good for you.

Go get it.

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I'm really glad I bought this....

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On 2004-09-28 07:53, Turk wrote:

Finally, is a Professor's Nightmare type of rope routine too "big" for restaurant table hopping?

Mike


Not at all. I just finished using the basic Professor's Nightmare in a three-night stint of table-hopping. And it gets a truly wonderful reaction from all age groups, even jaded college students.

I watched the video demo of Fiber Optics and it's now high on my to-buy list. Between it and the wonderful Tabary DVDs, I should have quite a bit to work on over the upcoming holidays.

Jeremy
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I have it. Mastered 3 Ropes and A Baby. Adapted some of the new moves fron Fiberoptics. It gets a great reaction. I don't know why.
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I love the One Rope Routine at the end of the DVD. You can use it for walk-around or on stage. It has actually convinced me to put my scissors away.

The DVD itself is REALLY well made and the explanations are crystal clear.

This is one well good product! Congrats, Richard.

Mike
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Parts of this sound very similar (though I am sure different in it's totality) to Tabary's 3-rope routine on his second video. I perform this regularly. I am sure there is some overlap between the moves. Looks like it's definitely worth having, though.
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