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Pete Legend Inner circle Ireland 1401 Posts |
Hey guys,
My experience with invisible thread is somewhat limited as I am a card man who also uses mentalism in my close up act. I bought 5 packets of loops with a book called Animated Miracles by Yigal Mesika. Now I have used loops in three performances thus far performing invisible touch routine with Banackek's PK touch and had no worries in relation to anyone seeing the thread as the closest person to the thread has his/her eyes closed when performing this effect. I now want to perform the floating ring effect but have worries that the spec will indeed see the thread. With normal I.T., using the Jon LeClair hook-up in a restaurant, setting the thread (I'm guessing) would be next to impossible to see rather than the heavier thicker loop. But I want to use the loop as I find it very easy to set up and use. I have a few questions, if I may. 1. In your opinion are loops ideal to use in a restaurant setting i.e. artificial light? 2. When performing I dress in black; will this help in hiding the thread? 3. Even in a restaurant setting is it wise to try and shade the thread. Does anyone have any good ideas to help me in this area? My spec's positioning? 4. When floating an object such as a ring I'm guessing it would be wise to have the object float for as little time as possible. Do you guys agree? 5. Using a white tablecloth and moving a fork has me in a cold sweat...is there any way it the world this can be done on such a bright surface? As you can see, I'm pretty comfortable with the technical aspect but not with the more important things when it comes to thread. I suppose this knowledge will come from experience but I don't want to be giving away the secrets of invisible thread because of lack of experience. By the way, I have asked for family members' help and in fairness, even in a dim light, they can often see the thread so any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks for reading this and have a great weekend! Yours sincerely, Pete Carroll |
Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
I use a Mesika loop to float a borrowed ring in my restaurant work. In my opinion, a shirt (or tie, etc.) with a busy pattern hides the thread best. Watch the light behind you. And yes, make the float very short.
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ykstem New user 38 Posts |
A plain black shirt is no good - it will reflect light off the loop. A patterned shirt is best. A short float has worked best in my experience. If you are able to create an angle such that the only background to the loop is your shirt, you will be fine; if you are more surrounded, and people may glimpse a view of the loop against a brighter background, then I would think twice. I would say a resounding no to using loops against a white tablecloth.
All of that said, while your concerns are absolutely valid, people are usually much less aware of it than you fear they will be. Good luck. |
Acecardician Inner circle New Orleans 1390 Posts |
I asked a family member if they can see the thread, and they said yes, now that I pointed it out to them.
I float a bill with a loop, I keep it moving and pretend to blow up on it. This takes the heat off the thread. Everyone tries it by blowing on it. Although I am more of a non-serious magician. If someone wants to see it again, I tell them it will cost them another bill.
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Jonathan P. Inner circle Belgium 1484 Posts |
A pattern design is always better, and it all depends on the thread. The Miracle Thread from Penguin Magic (elastic one, to make loops) is nice with a black shirt. But I tested another one (the one that is supplied with the Gregg Webb magic CD, see a post in the secret "thread" session) which was great with a clear background but was flashing a lot with a black background. Make your tests.
Good work! J |
Mauricio Jaramillo Elite user Colombia 413 Posts |
Yes, the busy pattern will help, and make objects float as little as possible for the credibility factor and so to the spec it doesn't look like a ring hanging from a hard-to-see thread.
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Eirik Special user Oslo 879 Posts |
But don't limit yourself to levitations. Loops are also great for different animations, and as a backup for a thread routine (if the thread breaks).
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Pete Legend Inner circle Ireland 1401 Posts |
I would just like to say thanks very much to you all. I appreciate you guys sharing your knowledge with me. Hope you all are having a class weekend and thanks again for your time.
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