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Dan McLean Jr aka, Magic Roadie
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Hi, everyone!
I've started writing a new article for http://www.magcroadie.com. It's all about creating audio CDs for use in your show. It will cover compiling, burning, labeling, and packaging.

Does anyone have any specific questions or concerns they'd like to see addressed in the article? Please note that this particular thread is intended to gather requests for info, and I will not answer questions in this thread. For questions, just start a new thread (or join in an existing one), and I'm sure I and others will be glad to help.

So far, articles at http://www.magicroadie.com include;
• Speaker Placement. For superior sound quality, maximum coverage, and increased "gain-before-feedback".
• Wireless, Part 1. (July 13 '03) Dispelling several "urban legends" surrounding wireless mic systems.
• Wireless, Part 2. Proven advice on how to make your wireless system work as well as possible.
• Pick A Mic, Any Mic! (July 10 '03) Learn about the different types of mics, and learn how to choose the best one for you!
• Stage Lighting Basics, Part 1. Everything you need to know about the tools of stage lighting.
• Stage Lighting Basics, Part 2. How to create an effective stage lighting design.
• "Advancing” Your Shows. Even part-time, close-up magicians can borrow a few pages from the contracts the big boys use. "Advancing" is the process of gathering your requirements and speaking with the client to make sure they’re handling all necessary arrangements with regard to your requirements.
• Stage Plots. A good stage plot isn’t difficult to create, and should be very simple, cleanly laid out, and easy to understand. First, we’ll look at some of the rules of thumb regarding formatting & content. Then, we’ll check out a sample stage plot for a stage illusionist, and one for a close-up, table magician.
• Pyrotechnics and Stage Effects. My friend LORAN contributed an article on pyro which includes a lot of the legal ins-and-outs. LORAN is an International Magician & Illusionist and a certified Pyrotechnician who has a tremendously charismatic stage presence! The articel also includes some extra info from the encyclopedically knowledgable Steve Zigmont!
• Cue Sheets. Don't go on stage without one! All the how's & why's of cue sheets, with tons of tips, anecdotes and insights from full-time pros Dan Harlan, Loran, David Merry and David Peck.

Cheers from Toronto!
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Great work Dan!

These are truly helpful to those who want to become more effective performers- at any stage.

I admire your willingness to make the case for improving what many seem to take for granted.
Thank you for contributing to this open forum!

Cheers,
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Hey Dan,
Sounds great! One tip (which you may already have covered) is that you should never, ever, ever use adhesive labels for CDs. In heat (especially that created inside CD players, especially slot loading ones like in cars or the Sony single rack space units), they can come off and goo up the player, and they can sometimes affect the balance of the CD and eventually wear out the player. And if the label does start to peel off, sometimes it can pull the reflective layer up and ruin the CD.

If you want a printed CD surface, the only reliable way to do it is to use inkjet printable CDs and get one of the inexpensive Epson inkjets that can print on CDs (lately I've been using the Photo R200, which costs $99 and does a really nice job of printing CDs).

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Thanks for the tip on CD labels, Andy. I wasn't aware of that, and I have been using the adhesive labels. Where do you get printable CDs, and what type of equipment do you need to get started? Thanks!
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Hey guys,

I'm a hypnotist who wants to experiment with making audio CD's in a home studio. Can anyone recommend a good mic to use? (Vocal/speech only, no singing or music).

If it matters, I'm using a P4 2.4Ghz with stacked 150gig drives, complete with DVD/CD burners. I'm also on the market for a new sound card (32 bit?) and I'm hoping someone can recommend one too.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

- James.
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On 2004-09-06 01:18, procyonrising wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm a hypnotist who wants to experiment with making audio CD's in a home studio. Can anyone recommend a good mic to use? (Vocal/speech only, no singing or music).

If it matters, I'm using a P4 2.4Ghz with stacked 150gig drives, complete with DVD/CD burners. I'm also on the market for a new sound card (32 bit?) and I'm hoping someone can recommend one too.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

- James.


James

Check out the Shure mikes a 48 should be fine for your needs.

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James,

The Shure SM-58 is a great vocal microphone. It is best used for live sound reproduction as opposed to studio use. However, it works ok as a decent, enexpensive vocal recording mic also. They're only around $100 and they will stand lots of abuse.

Regan
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You should go into choosing the correct bitrate
Dan McLean Jr aka, Magic Roadie
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Thanks, Andy & Salazar! I will include label & bitrate info. Is there anything else anyone would like to see included?
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Loss of quality from compressed mp3s
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On 2004-09-05 23:46, jkvand wrote:
Thanks for the tip on CD labels, Andy. I wasn't aware of that, and I have been using the adhesive labels. Where do you get printable CDs, and what type of equipment do you need to get started? Thanks!


I know that DiscMakers.com sells inkjet printable CD-Rs, although I haven't used them. I actually bought my last batch off somebody else, and I can't recall where he ordered them offhand. If you do a Google search for "taiyo yuden" brand, those are considered to be the best and most consistent, and I'm pretty sure they make printables.

A lot of the brands you buy in stores are very inconsistent; Memorex, Sony, etc. repackage whichever manufacturer they can get cheapest that week. One week the Sony blanks you buy are Taiyo-Yuden, the next they're some shoddy factory. It's safest to stick with T-Y or one of the other factories where you know where it's coming from.

As for equipment to print, in the low end there's Epson's R200 photo printer. For $99, it comes with a special slot and a holding tray for printing CDs, and works great. It's what I'm using these days. To get a dedicated CD printer, however, you're talking a hefty investment; if you're willing to spend enough and have enough need for it, you can even get all-in-one machines that are capable of both burning and printing an entire stack of CDs.

Hope this helps,
Andy
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Hi Don,
I see that you're planning on covering the aspect of labeling - I would appreciate more info based on Andy's post about not using the adhesive labels. I went to WalMart tonight and asked the electronics clerk about labeling directly onto a CD, rather than using an adhesive label, and they had no idea what I was talking about. So, can you direct us to where we might find the technology to do that? Thanks!
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I bought a stand-alone CD-RW and printable CDs from Discmakers. It's all pretty good, though their customer service is a little on the slow side. The CDs they sell don't have the smooth edge that Sony's or other brand names have, so I suspect they're from some factory - cheap - that gives them a consistent standard.

They guarantee their CDs, though, if you think about it, how hard is it to replace one or two CDs?
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On 2004-09-06 23:28, jkvand wrote:
I went to WalMart tonight and asked the electronics clerk about labeling directly onto a CD, rather than using an adhesive label, and they had no idea what I was talking about. So, can you direct us to where we might find the technology to do that? Thanks!


First off, no disrespect meant to you or the clerk, but a WalMart clerk is the LAST person I'd go to for electronics advice. Actually I tend to avoid most salespeople, since they have an ulterior motive, but especially ones at major chains like that, especially major chains that don't specialize in electronics. That said....

Read my previous two posts where I tell you what kind of CD blank to look for and name a specific model of inkjet printer that is the least expensive way to get started printing your own CD surfaces.

The printer I mentioned can be bought at pretty much any store that sells printers, and while you can't get the best CD blanks there, most office and computer stores now do sell at least one brand of printable CD-R.

Also, if you do mail order the CD-Rs, make sure you order inkjet printable ones, not thermal printable.
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If I should not use adhesive labels on CD's, what about Sharpies?

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Dan McLean Jr aka, Magic Roadie
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Fccfp,
Here's a brief preview of the upcoming article.
"Most CDs are fine if you label them with a Stanford Sharpie felt-tip marker, and you can get felt-tip markers that are specifically for CDs. As with labels, you will “probably” be okay — Again, “probably” doesn’t put food on the table, so I wouldn’t use markers for show CDs. Writing directly on the top of a CD with a marker is definitely safer than using an adhesive label, but it really doesn’t look pro. Whatever you do, don’t ever use anything with a hard tip, like a ballpoint pen."
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Hey, Don

How about some info on burning an audio CD one track at a time i.e. one track from CD #1, two from CD #2, another from CD #1, etc.

Advice on software, links to help pages, etc.
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Hi, gang, and thanks for your ideas! Let me kow if there's anything else you'd like to see covered.
Here's a list of what I've already included, and keep in mind that the software-related bts are generic, because I can't possibly give instruction in individual app use.

Media selection, Red Book compliance, audio file types, ripping, compiling audio files from various CDs, finding sounf FX, getting sound out of an audio source, setting record levels on your computer, differing levels from song to song, normalizing, adjusting for average loudness, removing vocals from a recorded song, cross-fades, DAO vs TAO, finalizing, spare copies, labeling, packaging, portable player issues, software needed.
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The 48 are the best from shure. We use them and they are just amazing. Don't go for anything but shure. They will SHURELY live us out.

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How about carrying multiple mediums with you? MIni disc, Cd, tape. Maybe your own player and patch cords with you.

I have seen too many acts show up with music that will not play or work on the house system.
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