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Bert Allerton used to do this as a close up item and he used to close with it. I would like to also do it but there are several cages on the market. And I own two that I am not happy with!

Does anyone have a suggestion on vanishing cages which one is the best to use and be able to re-set in a moment?

Who makes the best cage now? Thanks...
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I vote for Owen for the best cage. I haven't seen the Encore cage, though. I would think that the most practical one for people who don't have arms like Walter Blaney would be the smaller Encore cage. It is built on the Lindhorst pattern, just like the Owen cage.
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Have you seen the Tommy Wonder DVD?
I can't exactly recall how easy a reset is, but I do recall it looks impossible..he does it with rolled up sleeves and it looks absolutely impossible.
If you NOT yet have seen him doing it, you most certainly should consider to look into his method..
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Where can I get the encore cage Bill?
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Encore magic has it. You might be able to get it from Hocus Pocus. Their URL is http://www.encoremagic.net/.
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Thank you very much Bill for pointing me in the right direction...
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Glenn: there is a cheapie on eBay that may just do what you want.
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Thank you very much Pete... I just went to the suggested link and did a buy it now... I look forward to doing this effect in restaurants and have wanted to for a long time.

By the way I used the set of galli galli cups in a show last week and they are the finest set I have ever used. Thank you ever so much for them.

I did the loads with Franks puch and was booked to do walk around.
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Here is a much more highly chromed model of the same type.

http://www.magicgoods.com/VanBirdCage.htm
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Most cages are five inches by five inches. That equils 10 inches when vanished... I am a short person. Anyone have a place in mind that has a smaller cage?

I saw a very small one about three and a half inches one time I do not remember where. I shoud have gotten it.
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You wouldn't have liked it. That was the infamous Milson-Worth(less) vanishing bird cage. They do things to you that won't make you happy.
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Everytime I have seen someone do the birdcage the spect's know exactly where its gone.

They start searching the performer.

I have never liked this effect.

Its a classic but doesn't do anything for me.

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It's all in the presentation. My setup allows one to be searched, if so desired.
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The cage I mentioned is 12 1/2 inches closed 5 x 4 1/2 x 4 1/4 inches. You can always cut it down and use the Bert Alerton idea of no side bars. This will give you a very small cage that you desire.

After looking at this cage it will work to cut it down.
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On 2004-09-14 17:09, wmhegbli wrote:
Here is a much more highly chromed model of the same type.

http://www.magicgoods.com/VanBirdCage.htm



This cage is a piece of junk. The fellow who is holding it doesn't even know how it works.

I did the cage for 20+ years at the Renaissance Festival and was never given a serious search by anyone. I used to do a bit where I would cue the spectator to frisk me. Then I would say, "When you get through, it's my turn!"

Regarding removing the side bars. That doesn't change the length of the cage. It changes the diameter of the cage when closed. And in some cases, it makes little difference. The diameter is determined primarily by the size of the frame bars.
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Hi Bill,

Yes this cage is a chrome Milson-Worth model. I have it here with me. It is very nicly chromed. Better then the ones from Spain. Yes the guy is holding it wrong and it comes with the wrong type of pull, but the cage is very nice with no sharp corner or edges.

The 4 frame bars can be cut off and it will shorten the length as you will drill a new hole for the catch area or loop. It will still be 4" tall in the front and about 3" wide between the hands, depending if you cut off a bar at each side. Sanding the ends to smooth will expose the brass on the ends, but they will be covered by your hands anyway. This will make the length considerably shorter as all 4 bars will be shorted and the hook up hole moved. It should make it 10 3/4" in length depending on your cuts.

I was offering a solution for bishthemagish that would not cost him much to make his idea come to life. I got my cage in 3 days. They do send quickly.
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The first cage I had was a Milson-Worth. The little wire loops on the outer bars snagged everything when the vanish took place. I took it to Walter Blaney, whom I am certain you will recognize as one of THE experts on the bird cage. He showed me all of the things that were wrong with it. Then he showed me his Owen cage. That's the one I got.

I'll be blunt about this. If you GAVE me a Milson-Worth Cage and $10.00, I still wouldn't pay you $5.00 for the whole package.

I've already PM'd Glenn with information about how to make it work.
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Cutting off the ends will eliminate the little wire loops and the side bars all together. As stated previously. If you wish to do as Bert Allerton did, in his book, published by Magic Inc. it is stated he finally has a small cage without the side bars.

This was just a suggestion for his situtation. I own an Owen Cage and have been working with it for 30 years for banquets shows.

I also agree Walter Blaney's repeat vanishing Bird Cage is a Marvel to watch. He is the expert. I have never seen anyone come close to his vanish.
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On 2004-09-23 00:07, wmhegbli wrote:
I have never seen anyone come close to his vanish.
Also being familar with some of the work of Walter Zaney Blaney, I've never seen him doing that vanish..
BUT, have YOU seen Tommy Wonder doing his version ? Smile
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Walter Blaney and Tommy Wonder both do fabulous bird cages. But I don't think anyone approaches the incredible slow-motion visible vanish of Billy McComb. I have seen him do it both with the transparent silk cover and without any cover at all.

It is relaxed, almost careless, and totally a fooler. Audiences gasp when it goes. I don't think anyone guesses that it went up the sleeve--I can barely believe it myself.

I have watched Billy live hundreds of times, and he has given me personal lessons on the moves, and I have edited his videos and still, I am always awestruck when I see it.
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