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Nicodemus Special user 644 Posts |
Anyone have any tips they would like to part with concerning the performance of
" B'wave " by Phil Goldstein ? Any books out there with different handlings or routine ideas ? Thanks.
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JimMaloney Inner circle 1184 Posts |
Check out Just Alan's routine with it in the January 2001 issue of Genii.
-Jim
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
The most important tip I'd like to impart is that it isn't pronounced "BEE-wave", as done by almost every magician I've ever heard. If you've followed Max's published works over the years, you'll know that he has a fondness for titles with lisps in them (Thequal, Thavant, Thabbatical, Amperthand, etc.). "B'wave" is just Elmer Fudd saying "Brave".
... Doug
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Chris A. Inner circle AKA Chris A. 1123 Posts |
I always thought it was just a play on the word "brainwave".
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Paul Inner circle A good lecturer at your service! 4409 Posts |
Yes Doug, but wouldn't that be BWAVE and not B'WAVE if that was the case?
Paul. |
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WR Special user Utah 945 Posts |
Shhh Bwave vewy vewy twiet..Were do magic... Uhutttt...
Sorry could'nt resist WR
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mysticz Special user D.C. metro area 680 Posts |
Jon Rachenbaumer released a three-part routine called "Fried Thrice" using a couple Marlo ideas to create a substantial, unified sequence that builds to a climax with the B'Wave cards. It's nice, but I still often use B'Wave in its single form as a performance piece.
Joe Z.
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Steve Friedberg Inner circle 1402 Posts |
Well if this topic goes on much longer...we'll be known as the land of the free and the home of the B'wave. (Like WR, I couldn't resist.)
Cheers,
Steve "A trick does not fool the eyes, but fools the brain." -- John Mulholland |
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WR Special user Utah 945 Posts |
Sorry I am a bad influence
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
Quote:
Flip wrote: It is. I was just commenting on the way it's intended to be pronounced (or at least how Max pronounces it... maybe Phil does it differently). ... Doug
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
I use the Racherbaumer sequence sometimes. It is excellent. Another thing I do (which won't work for anyone else, but maybe you can adapt it) is this:
The name of my "Company" (my act) is "Great Scott! It's Magic!" So on the first blank card I wrote "Great", "Scott!" on the 2nd and "It's Magic!" on the third. At the end of the trick when I say, "I didn't even bring the other three cards," I then silently turn over the remaining three (which I set up in order) to read "Great...Scott!...It's Magic!" Now, my intent on this was from a purely marketing standpoint--get your name out there as much and as often as possible. But believe it or not, this actually gets a stronger reaction for me than just the blanks. Not sure why, but it does!
"Love God, laugh more, spend more time with the ones you love, play with children, do good to those in need, and eat more ice cream. There is more to life than magic tricks." - Scott F. Guinn
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Nicodemus Special user 644 Posts |
Where can the Jon Rachenbaumer routine be located ?
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Scott Cram Inner circle 2678 Posts |
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On 2002-08-17 03:59, Nicodemus wrote: Racherbaumer released it commercially through California Magic & Novelty Co., and you can order it through them. Personally, I LOVE the whole "Fried Thrice" handling - it really does add a whole new dimension to B'Wave! |
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Gary Veteran user Market Harborough, UK 367 Posts |
This is the only card effect I carry with me at all times. It's an elegant routine that has a powerful impact on the participant like no other. I have used this with the good and the great and it never fails to get that sharp intake of breath and stunned silence result.
I also tend to position it almost as a gear change at a point where I indicate that we have now moved on from the fun magic to the 'real thing'. For me, the use of language can either break the effect or make it soar into the realms of sheer participant disbelief. I initially position it as a 'Game of Imagination'. The kicker is when what appeared as a mere theory becomes tangible reality. Importantly, I also give the cards to the spectator right from the outset in a small leather case, so the magic happens completely in their hands. This never fails to maximise the overall impact. I'm not convinced that one can improve a classic, and if so why? This delivers more than most but requires the best possible communication/presentation skills that you have to do it proper justice.
"I can see clearly now, the brain has gone"
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MarkFarrar Veteran user U.S.A. 376 Posts |
A lot of the magic I perform is either in my local magic club or at work, where, typically, I perform only one trick at a time - I don't have a particularly large repertoire and I don't want to take up too much time when we should be doing "real" work.
What I have found about B'Wave is that it's not really a trick you should perform by itself. I work with some pretty bright people, and it's not that difficult to back-track. Performing the effect in isolation without moving on to other effects therefore seems to give people too much time to think about this one trick. My recommendation is, then, to perform this as a quick opener before moving swiftly on to other items.
Mark S. Farrar
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Brad Jeffers Veteran user 377 Posts |
It's funny, but a lot of people think B'Wave is a great effect. I disagree. I think that it's a pretty weak piece of mentalism. After all, what is the actual effect ... you are predicting which one of the four queens someone is going to think of. Being correct, when the odds are only 1 in 4, is not going to be perceived as a great feat by anyone. If you think about it, it's only twice as strong as guessing whether a nickle will land heads up, or tails. It seems to me that using one of the many ways to predict which card from a full deck will be thought of, is much stronger.
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Chris A. Inner circle AKA Chris A. 1123 Posts |
I prefer "twisted sisters" which is really just a supersized version of b'wave anyhow...
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
Brad--
I've gotta disagree. If you had four regular queens, then you would be correct. However, with B'Wave, the effect is that this is the ONLY card with a red back--further, it is the ONLY queen! So there is no way you could have finegeled the cards about with sleight of hand etc. You apparently committed to that ONE card before you even came that night. When it is one card out of the whole deck, the possibility of sleight of hand exists--"How did he manage to find my card and bring it to the point in the deck" etc. With B'Wave, that possibility doesn't exist. It is astronomically more powerful than predicting heads or tails, where you have a 50/50 chance.
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I agree with you totally, Scott. I use B'Wave constantly and, on a high percent, people are left with the impression that they could have thought of any card. I do it at Hollywood Magic all the time and the guys there say my patter line is the best on this effect. Number one: don't do it like a magic trick. I've seen so many do an Elmsley count first to prove all the cards are face down then do a magic wave to make one card reverse itself. Wrong! This is pure mentalism. Second: Don't constantly mention the number of cards in play.
Here is my presentation: Do you mind trying an experiment of the imagination? Good. (the cards are on the table) Can you imagine I have a full pack of cards on the table? Good. Now can you imagine I reach into that pack of cards and pull out all the queens? Yes. Good. (remember don't say four queens and keep mentioning pack of cards or full deck of cards) Now I put two queens back into the pack. Did you imagine I put the blacks or the reds? Great. We think alike! Now I take one of the red queens and turn it face up in that pack of cards. Did you imagine I turned over the queen of hearts or the queen of diamonds? Great. I knew you had a great imagination. Imagine that... we started with a full pack of cards then imagined the queens then we imagined one queen... the queen of diamonds. Look. I knew you would imagine ONE CARD and ONE CARD ONLY so I put one card face up in the pack and it too is the queen of diamonds. (spread to display.) And I knew you would imagine this one queen from the pack so I pulled it out of a different pack. (show different back) And I was so sure you would imagine only one card from a full pack that I didn't bother to have other cards. (turn over to show the blanks.) The key is to mention that he had a full choice of any cards and to minimize the amount of times you mention how many cards are in play. In fact, if you noticed, when I go to the blanks I don't say, "and the other three are blanks", but say, "and the other cards are blank" or "and I didn't bother to pull out any other cards." I've heard the reaction from many afterwards and they believe they could have thought of any card. Treat it like pure mentalism and you will get that reaction. Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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Brad Jeffers Veteran user 377 Posts |
Quote: Actually Scott, It's still a 1 in 4 guess, which is only twice as impressive as guessing the correct side of a coin toss, which of course, is a 1 in 2 chance. The fact that the other three cards are blank, while negating the use of any sleight of hand, still doesn't change the mathematics. It would seem to me that a trick, such as Vernon's Out of Sight, Out of Mind, where you divine the one card that they merely think of, from an entire 52 card deck, would be much more impressive. Having said that, I will however admit, that I myself have never performed B'Wave, so I am speaking from theory rather than practise, and it seems that everyone who actually does perform B'Wave swears by it, so it must have some merit! I guess I'll have to give it a try myself.
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