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dearwiseone
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Just wondering if anybody has the DVD or recommends it.
Also, I'm looking for good DVD's on restaurant magic. Any suggestions?
Review King
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Dearwiseone if you do a seacrh you can many times find what you're looking for. Try this link:


http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=111
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In regards to Restaurant Magic DVD's. I just recently picked up Carroll Baker's new DVD "Magic on the Menu"
He performs in a restaurant setting, in front of some guests. (probably friends) He does a number of routines which include sponge bunnies, cards, coins, cup and ball etc. Not knuckle busting stuff, but material you would use in a restaurant setting.

Mr Baker performs in restaurants, that's what he does, and devotes the material in the DVD to that end.
I think you will learn some things if you plan to work restaurants and what material to use.

I would highly recommend Doc Eason's Bar Magic Videos/DVD. one of the best DVD's produced in my opinion for what you are looking for.
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I think I voted visuantics the worst magic dvd ever in a post on the Café.

It's really bad. 1 out of 10.
dearwiseone
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David Paul,
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check Eason's stuff out!
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On 2004-09-15 10:55, jimesw wrote:
I think I voted visuantics the worst magic dvd ever in a post on the Café.

It's really bad. 1 out of 10.



Jimesw,

I would respectfully suggest that to be fair in posting such a scathing indictment that you should have listed what is on this DVD and what you found "bad" or made it the "worst"...and why.

Was it because you might have purchased the DVD expecting it to teach you complete effects and, instead, it taught you a number of quick visual items that were designed to focus immediate audience interest in you or which were designed to give you quick visual interludes designed to be interjected in between your actual effect? Was it because the items taught were just not "you" or did not "fit" into your routines?

Your general negative statement is devoid of any specific information and is not helpful or of any constructive benefit to any prosective purchaser trying to make an informed decision in whether or not to purchase this DVD.

Mike
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With visuantics, you get exactly what it is offering. A lot of quick effects, not full routines. I liked the DVD. If you read the advertisements for it, and liked what they said, then the DVD is for you.
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On 2004-09-15 17:22, therntier wrote:
With visuantics, you get exactly what it is offering. A lot of quick effects, not full routines. I liked the DVD. If you read the advertisements for it, and liked what they said, then the DVD is for you.




Therntier,

My point exactly. Kind of like buying a pair of Levi 505s (with zipper) and complaining that they were not 501s (button front). Jim's DVD does EXACTLY what it was designed to do and which it advertised it was going to do.

Oh, well.

Mike
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gentleman
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Is this dvd for a beginer or advanced
and are the tricks eyepopping
smacks183
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All the trick are wihtin the reach of a beginner...i would say I use about 3 of the effects
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Does he offer much in the way of advice on the dvd? Or does he basically just teach the effects? Thanks.
dearwiseone
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Carmudgeon,
I just got the DVD two days ago and have watched the entire thing. I thought Jim Pace was a big time Restaurant guy, but it sure doesn't look like it from this DVD. There is no intro, no advice, no audience, no extra tips, and he's dressed in a black lab coat for half the DVD (who would ever wear a black lab coat in a restaurant?) and he doesn't look very excited to be there.
The effects are great little effects, cool things you can fit into your routines. He shows you the effect, and then shows you how it's done.
I would have liked to see more ideas. He apparently has such a knowledge of restaurant magic, I wish he would have shared more of that with us.
Anyway, I think it's a great resource, but I'm still on the lookout for good Restaurant Magic DVDs! Good luck!
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Dearwiseone,

It seems you have your own idea as to what resturant magic is. It has always been short fast simple magic that get the reaction from the customers and at the same time be able to stay out of the way of the serving food and turnover of the customers.

Only in very high priced resturants do you do more routine type magic. Most of these resturants will be very hard if not impossible to get into. They feel there products brings in the customers.

This is the point of being a entertainer at a resturant. Bringing in the customers! Not showing magic tricks for your fun. Think Ronald McDonald, he brings in customers.
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Turk
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Dearwiseone,

I'm confused.

At the beginning or your post, you seem to be castigating Jim for not providing full routines, no advice, no audience, etc. Yet, in the next breath you appeared satisfied with the material presented ("The effects are great little effects, cool things you can fit into your routines. He shows you the effect, and then shows you how it's done.").

The title and description of the DVD expressed clearly what to expect: Visual antics. Why did you expect full routines, extra advice, extra tips, etc.?

The purpose of the DVD was to introduce you to some fast hard-hitting visual magic that could be used as you approached a table or immediately while at the table or something that could be easily segued within a routine.

Jim definitely knows restaurant magic. If you'd like some info on all phases of restaurant magic (how to get hired, how to stay hired, what effects to perform, what about tips, how to work with the staff at the restaurant, why were you hired, how to promote yourself, etc.), I would suggest that you buy Jim's excellent and definitive book on restaurant magic. It is called "The Restaurant Worker's Handbook" by Jim Pace and Jerry MacGregor. Inside it you will find the answers to the question you posed at the beginning of your post.

Jim also has another book called "Jim Pace's "A" Material" by Jim Pace and Bob Wallace--which contains full blown routines. The material is not for novices or even intermediates but it is good and it is visual and entertaining.

You can purchase either of these books from a number of magic dealers (or from Jim himself at http://www.whiterabbitmagic.net

Hope this helps.

Mike
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shane_delon
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Since Jim Pace is a big restaurant magician, is the material on this DVD instantly resetable, etc. Is it all practical material for the restaurant?
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I am uncomfortable with my new title "Big Restaraunt magician"
Can we choose somthing else?
I certainly know my craft, but I am no different than any other WORKER out there. We understand what materials are best used from our experiences working the field. We all choose our styles, mine is not for everyone. As a matter of fact I am happy if I am the only one with my style.
Here are some facts...
You have to like being around people or will not succeed in this field.
People have to like you or...
You have to understand all kinds of people or...
You have to understand the business that you are in or...
You have to be motivated or...
And if you throw in some of the material from Visuantics, along with your own magic you will do just fine.
Those who are not getting it now will in time

With deep respect,
Jim Pace
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dearwiseone
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Jim,
good call. I guess maybe I was expecting a restaurant magic DVD, but that's my error in assuming. I guess I also assumed the Visual effects were to be used in a restaurant, but you never actually said that. My apologies for assuming so much. I enjoyed the material, maybe I'm just frustrated with not finding a good source for starting in restaurant magic. Thanks for the reply!
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I realy liked this DVD. And it has the best oil and water routine.

It's loaded with gems. Jim is a great inventor, performer and all around nice guy!!

Chris
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Turk
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Jim signs his last post "With deep respect" and this is no phony baloney. He is one of the most unassuming, humble, gracious and unselfish people I have had the pleasure or privilege to meet. He absolutely loves magic, has an almost encyclopedic magic knowledge and is always willing to help another magician and will do so at the drop of a hat.

Even though Jim no longer is a full-time restaurant magician, he cut his magic teeth in that business and knows it inside and out. If you wish to understand what a career in restaurant magic is all about, I just cannot recommend his "The Restaurant Worker's Handbook" more highly. It is a must read. This book is jammed packed with practical knowledge that only a person who has "been there, done that" could have written. Alternatively, you can hopefully eventually find it all out for yourself as you stumble and bumble your way through the restaurant magic gendre.

Mike
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Right on, Mike!! Jim's book is the best guide on this subject.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"

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