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handsfree
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A while back, and after much research, I thought it would be a good idea to purchase some of these for practicing handcuff escapes - either as a safety net or as an escape tool. Small, magnetic, concealable, just pop 'em in and turn - what's not to like?

Well, let me preface the rest of this by saying that, although I have a guitarist's and athlete's manual/digital dexterity and strength, I don't have cuffpicker's genetics; my hands are large. Once cuffed, even a regular key is mildly difficult for me to manipulate between the short distance allowed by a standard chain.

Anyhow, just as a dry run, I secured my wrists w/ standard Peerless cuffs(less pain) in front of me, double-locked w/ palms facing and plopped in the magnetic keys - actually they practically jumped in the holes. Cool! So far, so easy! Now, I go to turn them. Hmmmm, won't turn! I can't even get a grip on these things, which are now flush-mounted to the lock housing! I try and try, but no luck. I'm stuck! OK, I'll just pull them out and use a regular key. Not! The magnets are strong - won't even budge. And, I can't get a grip or leverage at all! The training keys ended up being keyhole plugs!!!!!!! After much thought and a fair amount of panic, I went to the tool box and summoned the Robogrip to turn the plugs and I was finally free.

If you have smaller hands and can generate some torque, perhaps these would be good for you. In my case, they are an effective tool for escape prevention. Good for cuffer, bad for cuffee.

Anyone else try these? What were your results?
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You might want to modify them by adding a slip in lever etc. or a socket/wrench as well
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Sometimes the distance between the hex head and the bit of the key is only wide enough of a hiatts and not the say S&W. It is possible to move the key shaft in the hex with a slight hit of punch with a hammer. Then the hex keys will work on all cuffs. Apart from that, the hex is too close to face of the cuff to really get a good grip.

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They should change them from hex-shaped to be spoked or star-shaped, so that one can get leverage from any position the training key is in, once it's inserted - like using a multi-handled wrench. Or, are they intentionally made to be useful only to the cuffer?
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You know Hands,

I posted this to you before, it sounds like you are practicing alone. I know there is the thrill of the challenge, and I know it well. I also know what it can be like to pay for your risk taking, and with out going into details, the way I paid was truely minor, and I counted myself lucky, though highly embarrased.

Of course I wish you luck, and as I said before if you develop the skill to build your own picks, you will shape the hand holds to suit your hand size and need.

Again, if you insist on pracicing alone, start with one wrist at a time, until ytou are completly comfortable.
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Please remember those inserts were NOT made for escape artists; but police trainers teaching handcuffing techniques.

It makes it faster to unlock people and keep training.

For that they work perfectly....
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