I would like a magnetic ring built, but have no idea how to go about this. I don't like the Omega Ring, because of the obvious gimmick and the design. I bought the Elohim ring, but again the design wasn't to my liking (though I prefer this to the Omega Ring). I would like a signet style gold ring with 2 rubber strips inlaid (to deaden the sound) that would mimic onyx (this is an idea of Allan Ackerman). Can a neodymium magnet be imbedded in the ring when it is poured, or will the heat destroy the magnet? It could be attached underneath, but this makes the ring rather bulky, and I would like it to be as unobtrusive as possible. Thanks for any input.
Bill

Bill

I use a sovereign ring and have a PK under the coin.

This sort of thing:

http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/halfsovereignrings.html

They look good but now mine has something extra.

I suggest that you take some PKs with you and try them for size.

Paula

Great advice paulajayne. Thanks!

Get a steel ring and have it gold plated after. Or brass with magnet inset. I would try to find a manufacturing jeweler. Here in L.A. there are tons of them.

If the magnet were included in the pour, you would likely do heavy damage to it, you can though, have the jeweler make the wax with the magnet in place to create a space for it in the pour (remove the magnet first) The area of nonferrous metal over the thing should be very thin, as a Neod. does not have a very far range. I would work with the jeweler and check it against items using some of the sheet silver or gold to see what will work. They might also use the sheet metal to make a ring, hammering it and soldering it into shape.
Pete has the best idea, go with a steel ring, one could be made though the jewler might involve a machine shop! You will get a better range with a steel one.

Pete,

Have you ever noticed how well women know jewelry? Magic props are incidental!

You know why? Diamonds are a girl's best friend.

And man's best friend is a ____________?

Yep! A dog!

There must be a difference.


Bob
Magic By Sander

Unh, Thanks! (I think!) ;}

On magic props?!? I scour the craft and second hand stores, and you do NOT want to know the things I find and how my mind imagines them! <those Evil Teddy bears!>
Kay

I have an Omega ring as well and have never used it for it's intended purposes. Its ungimmicked double, however, I use all the time.

As for the PK, have you given any thought to using a PK with a finger clip? You could put an iron rivit (or whatever) on your belt or even a piece of iron in your pocket and the PK could be picked up and dropped off virtually unnoticed.

The Master Ring is the most deceptive. John Altpeter made them and is now re-releasing them.

Bill, when designing the MasteRing I tested several different possibilities. One of the things I experimented with was enclosing the magnet in gold or silver. It failed horribly. The heat will destroy neodymium so I tried using Solarium (spelling). Solarium has the same strength as neodymium but can handle much higher heats. However it became apparent that the gold (or silver) fused with the magnet, deteriorated after a very short period of time. The gold discolored, turned to dust and flaked off. I also tried encasing the metal in gold then magnetizing it afterwards. The magnet strength was negligible.

The MasteRing was the final result, a ring where the magnet was completely hidden, from any angle. No suspicious looking stones or embellishments. It can even be examined. Although I have never needed to hand it out. I Bill, when designing the MasteRing I tested several different possibilities. One of the things I experimented with was enclosing the magnet in gold or silver. It failed horribly. The heat will destroy neodymium so I tried using Solarium (spelling). Solarium has the same strength as neodymium but can handle much higher heats. However it became apparent that the gold (or silver) fused with the magnet, deteriorated after a very short period of time. The gold discolored, turned to dust and flaked off. I also tried encasing the metal in gold then magnetizing it afterwards. The magnet strength was negligible.

The MasteRing was the final result, a ring where the magnet was completely hidden, from any angle. No suspicious looking stones or embellishments. It can even be examined. Although I have never needed to hand it out. I silence the “talking” when using the MasteRing with coins by placing a small amount of scotch tape on the ring. It prevents that metal against metal sound.

- John Altpeter

Well it appears that my last post doubled. If its too confusing just let me know, and I will repost.


Sorry, John Altpeter

Does John Altpeter have a web site or contact number?
Posted: May 10, 2005 6:49pm
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Oh, I see he has another post.