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scolman Elite user Cape Town, South Africa 456 Posts |
I've gathered from a number of comments here that Eugene Burger's stuff is excellent. Can someone tell me if this book will be suitable if I usually perform in after dinner type settings?
I would classify myself as a beginner in bizarre magick. Simon It would appear that this is more of an historical account of bizarre magick, looking at an earlier post on this topic? I may have found the answer to my own question - not really suitable for beginners. I think I should direct my attention to something more practical - TA Waters, Mind Myth and Magick perhaps? |
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Dr_Stephen_Midnight Inner circle SW Ohio, USA 1555 Posts |
They are on about the same level, skill wise. Either way, the material is well suited to an "over the coffee cups" performing situation.
Steve
Dr. Lao: "Do you know what wisdom is?"
Mike: "No." Dr. Lao: "Wise answer." |
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M. Perk Loyal user Hilton Head Island 292 Posts |
If you want a good start finding out info on Bizarre Magic then Strange Cermonies is a good Start. The book starts out with the history and materials needed for performing. It also has a few good tricks to get you started.
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
If you are interested in bizzare magic, I would highly recommend Strange Ceremonies. Mind, Myth, and Magic is a very good book, but isn't exclusively bizzare.
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mrmysticmike Elite user Cleveland, Ohio 427 Posts |
The Capricornian Tales by Christian Chelman is good as is the hardcover collection of Seance Magazine by Scott Moore-Davis. (I also agree the Burger books are very good.)
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
That is, if you can find the Seance Magazine collection! Last time I saw it on ebay it went for some ridiculiously high price $$$
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Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts |
Hmmm, the last time I saw it on ebay it only cost about $60. I bought it.
;) Mark
What would Wavy do?
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
As Napoleon Dynamite would say, "LUCKY!"
I think the one I saw was over $200. I didn't buy it. :) Richard |
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Caspar Veteran user Tacoma 316 Posts |
I have "Strange Ceremonies", "Mind, Myth, & Magic", "Capricornian Tales", and "Once Upon A Time" but my gem is "Sheherazade" and She is my favorite.
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
I've heard about Sheherazade a lot in this forum, but it's the only book listed above that I have not read. What's your favorite thing about it?
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Peo Olsson Inner circle Stockholm, Sweden 3260 Posts |
I also have Sheherazade, and I can't recommend the book to highly.
It's a big book, translated by our own Bill Palmer, and beautiful produced. I probably wont performe any of the effects in there, but I just love to read the stories and set ups for the effects. I think I got my copy from Hocus Pocus.
Pictured to the left my hero and me during FISM 2006 in Stockholm.
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DanielGreenWolf Veteran user Waterbury, CT 363 Posts |
For me, Sheherazade is just fantastic all around. The stories are entertaining without the magic, but with the magic, the story seems enhanced, which is unusual for a lot of Bardic Magic you see out there.
My highest praises go to Sheherazade. -Daniel GreenWolf |
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scolman Elite user Cape Town, South Africa 456 Posts |
Ok, this started out as Stange Ceremonies but now I find myself drawn toward Sheherazade. I think I'll hold off on buying anything right now as I am also expecting some of Jim Magus' stuff any day now.
As an aside, I was also considering Eugene Poinc's The Practitioner - any reviews? Simon |
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Caspar Veteran user Tacoma 316 Posts |
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On 2004-10-22 00:21, rtgreen wrote: I love the stories in Sheherazade which have inspired me more than the other books. The Bonus chapter in "Once Upon A Time" is also another favorite. |
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
I have read the Practitioner and liked it quite a bit. The routines are mixed with a narrative about a magician working a birthday party. Good presentations and an interesting story.
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Alchimest Regular user Alchimest 133 Posts |
You might take a look at Rober Neals books; Through the Looking Glass, Life Death and other Card Tricks, and Magic and Meaning which he wrote with Eugene. I enjoy his approach.
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Clifford the Red Inner circle LA, California 1941 Posts |
As you state you are a beginning bizarrist, if I had to choose one, I think you would get both very performable effects and also, more important, some important advice on performance from Eugene's material. For me, his ideas and advice have been all important to my art. I love all those other books too. Strange Ceremonies is very good and I also like the Voyages DVDs. I also like Docc Hilford's material like the Weirdist Closeup.
Ultimately, the hope is all these wonderful ideas will stimulate your mind in creating your own wonderfully Bizarre Magick. Aside from other people's books, keep a little notebook handy to capture your own ideas that may pop out of your subsconsious as you stumble across items that strike your particular fancy.
"The universe is full of magical things, waiting for our wits to grow sharper." Eden Philpotts
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tuffnavyrn Inner circle San Diego, CA 1238 Posts |
I own all of Eugene Burgers' books and while Strange Ceremonies has some very good stuff (Eugene's handling of the Haunted Deck rocks) I would suggest finding a copy of these 2 books and reading your heart out.....The Compleat Invocation by Kaufman Publishing (out of print) and Sheherazade by Borodin (might be out of print by now). Between the secrets of the effects performed in the first book and the presentation of the storylines from the second you will behold many, many powerful effects that will make you look.....well bizarre and the real thing.
Brian-
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Mystery Loyal user 248 Posts |
Err... The haunted deck isn't in "strange ceremonies", but in "the performance of close-up magic" and on the "Eugene goes bizarre DVD"...
But it does rock, indeed.
Let your dreams tear apart your life, before your life tears apart your dreams...
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tuffnavyrn Inner circle San Diego, CA 1238 Posts |
Thanks for catching my boo-boo Mystery.
Brian-
"That smart thing that somebody else said". |
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