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w!=art
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As most magicians here I know lots and lots of effects which I perform. Sometimes I just show one effect or 3 in a row with some patter, and like this it is a small routine or an act of 3 effects. I did not start really performing for money in restaurants, at parties and so on, but I do have some bookings the next coming weeks. The first one a full night walk around magic for more than 8,000 people.

I made some routines of 3 effects in a row and have like 10 ready now.

Like: some pk magic in the spectators hands(coin moving), my own levitation, needle thru arm

Burned match stick transportation in hands of spectator, floating match on card, broken and restored match stick in handkerchief

Coin production, 3 coin routine, coin bite

Card warp, pen thru borrowed bill, floating borrowed bill

...etc

I am looking for a good book or DVD on building an act or a set of magic for walk around magic.

Any suggestions from your own experience are welcome or does any one has some good advice on which books(DVD) to purchase on building an act or a set and a book on patter(stories) connected to the effects you perform.
willrob999
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The books you should seek out are Kirk Charles' Complete Guide to Restaurant and Walk Around, and the Magic Menu is a definite must. Both great books.

And another one you should seek out is Mark Leveridge "The Art of Hopping Tables."
Ken Dyne
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In my opinion the best book on building an act is Tarbell. I think it is volume 7 but I may very well be mistaken.

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w!=art
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Thanks for the advice until now, I already have Kirk Charles' book.

I am looking for a book how to build a complete act, a gig or a full routine of more effcets in a row. I'm also looking for books on the use of patter or theories about using patter

Regards,
w!=art
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Kennedy has some good advice about the Tarbell course. The stuff about how to construct an act is very good. I find with patter is that I think of a theme to go with the effect and practice my patter lines until I feel that it works with what I am doing then it I present it to my peers and they give me feedback on it.
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Also, while you are practicing your patter you will find subtleties and gags. You will be running your performance of note in lemon for the 2000th time and suddenly something will come to you, a gag, a subtlety or something (hopefully not a horse but hey!).

The more you perform, the more you learn. You can start with Tarbell and then change it to fit your needs or shows.

You may not be interested in mentalism but on one of his DVDs Richard Osterlind has some great advice and insight into how he creates his act, you may want to check this out. Oh, he does magic and mentalism on these DVDs including a great Bill in Cig!

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Kennedy,

I have the four Mind Mysteries DVDs but don't remember off hand the Bill in Cig. Was just curious if one could use something besides a cigarette for this effect?

Thanks

Candini
w!=art
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Thanks for all the advice. My first paid performance was a big succes. I've got three other bookings for the next coming weeks.
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Well done hope. You carry on getting bookings.
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Although Ken Weber's "Maximum Entertainment" is geared primarily toward stand-up acts, you will find the information invaluable if you want to become a better performer.

I don't know of anyone who, having read the book, has not received "nuggets of gold" to help his performance.
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Candini, yes, the method can be adapted to almost anything at all---wallet, envelope, box of matches, roll of tissue paper.

I hope this helps.

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Kennedy
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Magic Anywhere Anytime by Dirk Losander is a great DVD that will show you how to do a small show out of your pockets. Each time I watch the DVD I get new ideas. Here is a UK link for you http://www.emagictricks.co.uk/product_in......_id=4619
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Another great book on theory of magic that will help you think about patter is Darwin Ortiz's Strong Magic, if you can find it.

You seem to be on the right track. Just pick out routines that kind of flow together. Sometimes they don't even have to, as long as the table is having fun who says you can't do a coin trick, then a card trick then another coin trick? It's about what they want not what you have planned all the time.

I get lots of requests by repeat customers who bring in newbies for tricks they have already seen (the sponge bunnies especially). It's kind of like hearing your favorite song, sometimes you learn the words but you still like to share it with others.
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Dood all I have to say is showmanship for magicians from the fitzkee trilogy and magic and showmanship by henning nelms.
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One of the Café' members wrote a great book on building an act. Gerald Edmundson goes into how to work up new material all the way to a complete act. chapter 5 is a must read, I filled the margins of my copy with notes and ideas. It is called "The Ostrich Factor". You can PM Gerald, or go directly to his website:
http://www.geraldedmundson.com

Have fun,
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Check out Selling Restaurant Magic by Shaun Trulway (sp?) and Secret of Restaurant Magic by Eugene Burger. Of course the Kirk Charles book.
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Gerald
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I appreciate your kind words about The Ostrich Factor! The pursuit of excellence in the performance of magic is certainly a challenge for us all!

The main emphasis in the book is on learning the mechanics of sleights, blocking and presentation of a single effect. But many of the concepts can be applied to practicing and rehearsing a complete act. The practice method has many applications. I am glad you have found Ostrich Factor principles for framing a complete act. It sounds as if you are being really creative with the concepts. Keep going! You never know what wonderful results may evolve!

Keep me posted!

Gerald
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I agree with Kennedy, you wil often come up with things right on the spur of the moment that stick in the act forever. Sometime they need a bit of development but you have the beginnings of a new line, gag, idea or anything. Hey, Ive even thought of complete new effects just by something that someone has said to me whilst working. that's one of the advantages of table hopping over doing cabaret spots - you do the set so many more times then you do your cabaret spot which means you have more time to play with ideas etc.

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On 2004-11-10 18:43, twistedace wrote:
Another great book on theory of magic that will help you think about patter is Darwin Ortiz's Strong Magic, if you can find it.

You seem to be on the right track. Just pick out routines that kind of flow together. Sometimes they don't even have to, as long as the table is having fun who says you can't do a coin trick, then a card trick then another coin trick? It's about what they want not what you have planned all the time.

I get lots of requests by repeat customers who bring in newbies for tricks they have already seen (the sponge bunnies especially). It's kind of like hearing your favorite song, sometimes you learn the words but you still like to share it with others.


It is back out! you can get it now from any dealer.
Another book that is on my top 5 of magic books is "Perfect Piad Performances" by Docc Hillford. This is a must have book for any venue
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The complete review by Mike Close in MAGIC magazine and other review excerpts from Genii and MUM of The Ostrich Factor are now available at:

http://www.geraldedmundson.com/tof1/TOFReviews.htm

Regards,

Gerald
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