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Prophet
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I am interested in getting into the following for a side-show style-show some friends and I are looking into.



-Bed of nails

-sword Swallowing

-Block head

And any other Side Show Stunts/effects you can think of. Any references Would be greatly appreciated. Smile



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I used a bed of nails for many years and know many others using them as well. The best advice is to keep the nails close mine are about one inch apart but a little closer may be better. When buying the nails make sure that they are all the same length. Smile This makes things far more comfortable.



Have fun,

Mark Smile
Michael Peterson
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I would recommend the Swami Mantra book, it has many nice geeky effects.



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On 2001-12-05 23:15, Prophet wrote:

I am interested in getting into the following for a side-show style-show some friends and I are looking into.



-Bed of nails

-sword Swallowing

-Block head

And any other Side Show Stunts/effects you can think of. Any references Would be greatly appreciated. Smile







Bed of nails and blockhead are fairly easy to learn, and not too risky. You can find these and lots of other ideas in Swami/Mantra, as was already mentioned.



As for sword-swallowing: don't! Sword swallowing is dangerous. Even highly trained and experienced professionals have accidents with this one. Ugly accidents. If you really want to have a sword swallower, hire someone who already does it for a living. Don't attempt this one yourself.



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Is the Sword ladder in swami mantra? You know the one where a performer climbs up on the edges of swords like a ladder? Smile



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Michael Peterson
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I don't believe the sword ladder is in Swami Mantra Smile







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Blockhead? Is that where you hammer a nail into your head? I've seen Ian Rowland do it - actually, he taught me how to do it - and it draws a huge response - just didn't realize it had a name... If that's what it's called.



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...I did the harder side of the sideshow..FREAKY! not for everyone!!!

for further details .. send me a PM.
Burning your head, pierce the face with huge needles, straight jacket escapes with epileptic outbreaks, rope trhough nose and out of mouth coming, operating spectators, throwing up worms, ... high end tongue cutting and restoring..

harder than Jim Rose, ... many just fainted

bleeding *grin*

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Two quick comments. The term "geek" is not one used by those "in the know". It's actually considered a derogatory term (used mostly by magicians). Neither "Geek" nor
"Barker" are are used by the "real boys".

Secondly, while Swami/Mantra may be an entertaining read, it should by no means be considered as a resource for learning these stunts. It's information is INCOMPLETE and in many cases just plain WRONG. The ONLY way to learn these skills is from a professional.

One more comment regarding the statement that I made in my last post, "The ONLY way to learn these skills is from a professional." I know that it is difficult to find qualified people who are willing to share information, so I thought I would tell you about this upcoming event.

March 15-17, the Deception Convention in Pittsburgh, PA - Monday Night Magic (Swiss, Lovell & Robbins). Todd Robbins, the "Coney Island Wonder Worker", the "Post-Modern Master of the American Sideshow", will be presenting his show, lecture, etc. In my opinion, Todd is a true expert in the history, performance & techniques of the 10 in 1.

I hope to see you at the Deception Convention. I have been to every one so far. In fact, the D-CON's are the only magic conventions that I go to (and they get better every time).
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On 2001-12-05 23:15, Prophet wrote:
I am interested in getting into the following for a side-show style-show some friends and I are looking into.
...

-sword Swallowing

...


The trick here is to suppress the "gag" reflex, which is just that - a reflex.

Unless you're highly trained by someone "in the know", I'd recommend avoiding this monster altogether.
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Prophet
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Ok, well sword swallowing is out. To many people have advised against it. About D-Conn does any one know where I can find more information on it like price? package deals on rooms and what not?
thanks
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On 2002-02-21 10:59, Eric Starkey wrote:
Two quick comments. The term "geek" is not one used by those "in the know". It's actually considered a derogatory term (used mostly by magicians). Neither "Geek" nor
"Barker" are are used by the "real boys".



I feel like I'm having a conversation with my wife here. Smile Who are these quotatious persons and why are they the measure of my manner?

And since you have become the resident P.C. Police Eric, let me point out that most words, in and of themselves, are not derogoatory (this includes geek and redneck). They only become such with the users context or intent. Even racial epithets may be both detracting and amiable.

I guess what I'm trying to say is while I appreciate your forthrightness and respect your opinions, we literally have an entire globes worth of dialects and languages here at the Cafe. Thus any one persons concept of what is and is not derogatory cannot be applied universally (we can't even agree on what "impromptu" means).

You just have to understand that we are all adults, we are all guests of Steve and Co., so none of us would ever stoop to belittling another. If someone were to, I'm sure the moderators would be all over them. Just a thought. Smile
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You are 100% correct about dialects and interpretation of words. I do not intend to become the political correctness officer, sorry if it was interpreted that way. And, I do not expect a universal language to be accepted. Additionally, I agree that Steve and Company do a great job of moderating this list.

What I was simply stating was that those "in the know" (working sideshow entertainers) prefer not to have their trades labelled as geek magic (Just ask any of the folks at
"Sideshow by the Seashore"). Also, it's not a matter of telling you (or anyone else) how to speak or what manners to have - I just wanted to add in the term that is most acceptable by those who work sideshows. (ie. Psychiatrists don't like being called
"shrinks") Smile I hope that this clears up the meaning of my post. I wouldn't want anyone to think that I'm here starting trouble.

Mike/Prophet:
Complete information on the Deception Convention can be found at Rick Maue's website:
http://www.deceptionsunlimited.com

I hope to see you there,

Eric
Burt Yaroch
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Well put Eric. Thanks for the clarification. Smile

And just for the record, what is the term these folks would prefer put to them, instead of geeks?
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Eric Starkey
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Well, I won't attempt to speak for everyone, but most frequently, "Sideshow Entertainer" is the title selected. I am sure that there are a few out there who like the term "geek magic", but generally, it is viewed as a negative statement made by magicians.

Todd Robbins uses "Coney Island Wonder Worker" and "Post-Modern Master of the American Sideshow" (fitting, since he does ALL of the "working acts"). There are literally hundreds of titles used by performers, specific to their craft (glass eater, human ostrich, incombustible woman, torture king, etc).
Maynooth
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Prophet,

There are some good suggestions in "Geek Magic" by Dr. Doom. Not the greatest explanations but cheap enough to forgive that. There are a lot of Geek (and as the title of the Tome is Geek Magic I think I can use the term with abandon) things in it and suggestions for haunted house and side show stuff.

Yak,
Check out George Carlin's 'The seven words you can't say on TV' Smile for a full desciption of "BAD words" or not.

Cheers
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Why not learn the balloon swallowing (Tonsil Tickler) from Steve Bedwell's "MD Not Required" tape? It's definitely geek and the last line will bring tears of laughter to the audiences' eyes.

I have some of the real work on it, from Ron Jackson and myself, if you decide to try it -- but only if you buy the tape.
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Sword Swallowing ::: try Harabika balloon swallowing or the Swollowing Sword (gimmick)

any good sources?

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Sean Miller sells fire eating and blockhead kits at his website http://www.beardedfireeater.com

ps. The sword swallowing gimmick is very convincing. It also can be used as a great comedy effect if you take it out to thank people for their applause while it's supposed to be down your throat!
Jason
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