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The Magician
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Hi all, Is the greater magic book for the intermediate to advanced magician. Thanks
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I's say intermediate.
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Are you refering to the J.N Hilliard book?
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Hi rtgreen, Yes I am refering to the J. N Hilliard book
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Greater Magic is a very interesting book. It is more of an encyclopedia of magic than a book of instruction. I think there is something for every level in there, but I would not recommend it for a person wanting to learn new tricks or techniques. There are better books for that.

However, Greater Magic is one of magic's great books and should be read by anyone with a serious interest in the art.

Also, I would add, if you have a chance to aquire a copy right now, do it. It has become a hard to find book. I'm sure someone will reprint it again, but for now I have seen it for sale at very high prices. (One seller has it for $800!) I had a good copy, but unfortunately loaned it to a friend a couple of years ago and haven't seen either since. Smile

Richard

(BTW: I have no hard feelings toward the above mentioned friend. I think his life just took a different direction and he has moved on to other things)
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It concentrates more on Card Magic though.
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Yo,

Greater Magic by Hilliard is one of the truly great books. At almost any level you can mine this volume for years and years. It is to be hoped that Kaufman will reprint it again soon and if so get one as soon as it hits the market. Best,

BB
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I read the book cover to cover when I was just getting into magic as it was readily available at both my school and the public library. While the tricks can be a bit dated it is a wonderful look into the history of the craft and there is enough good magic to be found there to fill a thousand programs.

With all the new latest tricks and endless DVD and videos out we can sometimes lose sight of magic's past. It is rich and well worth the journey. If you can get a copy buy it, if you can borrow a copy, read it, if you can steal a copy...stay away from my house.

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In this book, there is something for every level, for complete beginners up to real experts Smile
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Greater Magic is a must buy. It has so much information you will learn
something every time you look at it. I have had it for years and I still use it.
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I also have Greater Magic and the book is very infomrativea and I really enjoy the history. I purhcased a copy from Kaufman (Through Al's Magic) back in the mid nineties. Perhaps Kaufman will run another printing of this book.
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I just saw and had in my hands the second printing in my hands exactly 3 days ago! I met a circus carnie at a fair. I sat and talked to him for a couple of hours and he showed me the book. I checked it out and it is in fact rather interesting. It is a VERY large (thick) book. But it has a lot of classic magic principals in it for new effects. If you want to learn new magic, read old books! If you want to learn old magic, read new books!
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I'm fortunate enough to work near a "rare manuscript" library that I can walk over to during lunch and study the 1994 edition. It's in a boxed set that includes a 2nd volume about the making of Greater Magic. I was surprised to learn Hilliard died in Indianapolis.

Here's how the contents break down for those who haven't seen/don't have the book:

pp 1-580 - Intro and Cards
pp 581-620 - Silks
pp 621-664 - Balls (incl. cups and balls)
pp 665-720 - Coins
pp 721-765 - Cigarettes and Cigars
pp 766-782 - Bills (i.e. paper money)
pp 783-802 - Ropes
pp 803-823 - Chinese Rings
pp 824-880 - Selected Tricks
pp 881-909 - Mental - Mind Reading
pp 910-925 - Magic Squares
pp 926-934 - Old and New Apparatus
pp 935-948 - Stage Presentation
pp 949- - Stage Tricks and Illusions

That gives you a little idea of the scope of the book.
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Eric
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And the best thing I've learnt from it? gotta be the bluff pass...
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Hi It's one of the most used books in our clubs library, I wish I had found it earlier.
I think it's fair to say it has something for everyone.

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Have to agree with all these posts...Greater Magic is a wonderful book. I have a 1944 printing handed down from my grandfather but am so reluctant to handle it too much. I'd pick up a new copy if I could find one so I could seal and preserve the old one. I just recently picked up the Tarbell series(shoulda done that years ago) and I can't recommend it highly enough either. Eight volumes that you can buy one at a time. I used to think Tarbell was just a beginner book years ago. My first opening to a page in it was an 11 linking ring routine...so much for that. It's so funny reading through it and finding better and more sensible techniques on many things than are being taught mainstream today(same with greater magic).It's first run was 1927. I think that in the quest for freshness and innovation some of the genius of simplicity gets lost. These old books REALLY stress the importance of performance.
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Greater Magic has got to be one of the best books written on magic. Many effects from the stars of yester-year. I would say it's great to own to see where many effects you know of today got there thinking from. It's a book that has so many little hidden gems that one could consider it the pride of there collection at any level of collecting. I've seen quite a few guys be stumped by the great principals taught through out this book mainly becuase a lot of it is just subtlety and not amazing sleigh of hand. It isn't necessarily for the beginner but it isn't an advanced book per se. It requires a knowledge of controlling and forcing but that's about it. If you ever have the oppurtunity to purchase it I say it's one of the most sound investments you'll ever make.
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Great classic reference book! Although it has not been in print for a while, they come up on eBay on a regular basis. I have seen a few individuals bid up and purchase numerous copies (because the have been told they are "rare", and hard to find), but if you are patient, you will find one. There are plenty of them out there. Seems that anything under $100 for a nice copy of the most recent printings (1994 I think) is probably within reason.
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Like everyone else has mentioned, Greater Magic is a definite "must have" for any magic library. There is so much material as can be seen in the contents as Cosermann listed above. I am glad to have found a copy and it is one of my favorites. Just get it. You'll be glad you did!
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