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Michael Peterson
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Any recommendations on what types you think are best & where to purchase them would be greatly appreciated.



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I bought a Swami from Tam Shepherd’s Trick shop in Glasgow, UK. The gizmo was perfectly disguised as a Queen of Spades which could also be used as a ’thick card’ if you know what I mean. (I think Bedwell has notes on this, he calls it the thick stick or something like that). I think my gimmick was made by Rob Bromley of England (try ’Rob Bromley’ in a search engine) and it only cost £5. The shiny bit stays put when not in use, is perfectly positioned for your glimpse of an index, and easily slots straight back into it’s hiding place. I learned to appreciate how good it was when I examined another Swami elsewhere which had a shiner that could be shook out, and was positioned in the MIDDLE of a short end of the card. Not very good. Good luck in finding a quality Swammi thing.



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If your talking mentalism then, as you know, you have basically 3 choices. Undernail, boon and thumbtip.

Undernail is often difficult to put on during a show and is best used for an opener where you can have it on when you come out. Also, I can guarantee you are going to lose them, sometimes at the critical point. I do not use them anymore. If you insist on getting an undernail, go with Johnson. Tannen used to carry them. Also, Sam Dahal puts out a package of 5 with a booklet. Contact Rabbit-In-The-Hat.

I like and use the boon, although you can lose these also. I find handling is natural. These can be gotten at any of the dealers; however, Mark Strivings carries one that I find excellent. Contact him at markyapril@aol.com.

The final is the thumbtip. These are tough to lose, and you normally have easy access to them, just as you would any other TT. You can make your own. Right now, I feel the best on the market is the one put out by Greg Edmonds. If you can wear a regular TT comfortably you are in business. It comes with a small booklet with some "killer" effects. Contact Greg at mindshow@aol.com.

Tell Mark and Greg that Marelli sent you. That will insure you get the items at their regular price plus standard shipping and handling.
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Lee Earle tells how to make a nice Swami writer on his video Swami Gimmick Teach-In, which I highly recommend.



Paul S--what you describe is the "Card Swami" by Chazpro, which is actually a shiner. What Ichazod is asking about is a "Swami Gimmick" aka a nail writer. Two completely different things, but an understandable miscommunication.

(isn’t that an oxymoron?)
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Oxymoron= A facial cleanser for dumb people









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Hi,

An important question is hove close is your audience?

If they are close you might favor a small gimmick like a delta writer,

If they are far away you might prefer a stabile writer that is easy to find in your pocket.

People with fat fingers usually dislike boonwriters.

The shape of your nails are important if you want to use some of the small models.

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[quote]On 2001-12-06 10:46, Ichazod wrote:
Any recommendations on what types you think are best & where to purchase them would be greatly appreciated.

I am suprrised that no one has mentioned a "double writer" as a great alternative and has not been exposed to the public.
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Ichazod, I thought an oxymoron was a really, really dumb steer!
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I've tried the boon and nail writer and far and away prefer the nail writer. You, as mentioned, need to take care of/grow out your nails for a while, but I've found it fairly easy to write legible numbers with it.

Perhaps a little off the subject but I hate the way most nail writer effects are presented. The idea of asking someone to just think of a number and you'll read their mind and write down what they're thinking is cool. But, of course, this bold statement is always followed up with- "Okay, what number were you thinking of?" Why should they have to tell you if you just wrote it down. Same thing goes for invisible deck.

Wouldn't a much more impressive method allow you to avoid the ridiculous question? Something like this:
I've written a number down that I predict you will think of. I want you to think of a number. But first clear your mind. Totally clear your mind. No clear it more. In fact count backwards(name a vegetable, say "mother" 3 times, etc...) and then name the first number one through 1,000 that comes to your mind.

The same thoughts go for Invisible deck-

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Very good point, Platt.
I like your reasoning and thinking on this.
The trouble with most mental effects is that they simply don't make sense:
Why would I roll dice to come up with the page number of a book?
You have managed to come up with a reason and that can make all the difference!
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My favorite writer is Jerry Somerdin's boon writer. It shouln't be hard to find, in fact I'm pretty sure Mark Strivings carries it. Also, Banachek gives good instructions on how to make a boon writer in Pre Thoughts.

Okay, in my last post I said Jerry Somerdin's boon writer "shouln't" be hard to find, when what I meant to say was is it "shouldn''t be hard to find, but I din't type in the "d."
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[quote]On 2002-04-04 09:56, Thoughtreader wrote:
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On 2001-12-06 10:46, Ichazod wrote:
Any recommendations on what types you think are best & where to purchase them would be greatly appreciated.

I am suprrised that no one has mentioned a "double writer" as a great alternative and has not been exposed to the public.
PSIncerely Yours,
Paul Alberstat


Paul, you must be referring to things like, Dusheck's 'E.S.P.en-The Double Writer' and Bill Tarr's BT One? I think the 'BT One' is a great item and has many possibilities for secret writing. Actually, both of them are pretty neat writers, but the 'BT One' is easier to use, IMO.

I don't know if these items are still on the market.

Jerry
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Thank you all, I purchased one from Mark Strivings a while back.



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I haven't used it much yet, but I find Sam Dahal's nail writers comfortable (though I do have a long, thick thumbnail cultured through years of guitar playing) and effective as well as easily concealed if you've ever used a TT. And for the price you can't go far wrong to try them out...
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On 2002-04-04 11:55, Ray Eldard wrote:
My favorite writer is Jerry Somerdin's boon writer. It shouln't be hard to find, in fact I'm pretty sure Mark Strivings carries it. Also, Banachek gives good instructions on how to make a boon writer in Pre Thoughts.


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On 2002-04-04 10:52, Platt wrote:

Perhaps a little off the subject but I hate the way most nail writer effects are presented. The idea of asking someone to just think of a number and you'll read their mind and write down what they're thinking is cool. But, of course, this bold statement is always followed up with- "Okay, what number were you thinking of?" Why should they have to tell you if you just wrote it down. Same thing goes for invisible deck.


True Platt. The patter is ever so important when doing a nail writer routine.
For those who are interested, here is my general condensed presentation:

Have you ever heard about remote viewing? It is the ability to take a glance into the future or to a far off distant place by only using your mind.
We're going to do an experiment with remote viewing. I am going to write a 3 digit number on a pad of paper, and you are going to tell me what it is. How you might ask? I am going to show you how to look into the future. Clear your mind and think of black. You may just see black for a split second, and that is alright. Now I want you to picture in your mind seeing me holding a piece paper while talking to someone. Now keep watching and you will see me stop talking and hand the paper to you. Look at the 3 numbers on the paper. Now read to me the first number only...now tell me the second number....now the third number.
So the 3 numbers on the paper that you saw me hand to you in your mind were (say the numbers slowly, for example 3-4-2) 3....4...2
Your spectator confirms this and then you hand them the paper. Smile

This is a very condensed version, just let your imagination go wild. You might say to picture them on a beach or some other calm place etc. Have them walk up to an old man painting the sunset, but instead of the sunset on his canvas there are 3 numbers.
You don't want this effect over with in 10-20 seconds. IMO if your finished under a minute or so thats too quick.
As for the different types of writers, I use a swami gimmick and I am very happy with it. However I don't think every writer is right for everyone. As others have said, for the swami you have to grow your thumbnail a bit or the little thing will fly off and hit your spec in the eye! But once you have your nail the right length, the swami fits snug and works perfectly and is so easy to ditch.

Present it and use it correctly, and this effect will truly be an unforgettable experience that they will remember for years to come.
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I also agree that is MUCh better to make them be the receivers that to read their minds..I found it much more difficult also for them to guess the method that way.
It is so easy to get gimmikcs and props in America it seems!
Here in Spain I went to one of the most well known magic shops of barcelona and they didn´t have ANY writter.
So I guess I will try the thumb tack as reccomended by Lee.
Is there a Big differece between that and the soromeli boon writter?

Sorry I meant Somerdin's boon writter in the above message.
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I used a lot Swami Gimmicks for mentalism magic, good reference to build your own gimmicks and routines are the following:
+ The Nail Writer - "Swami Gimmic" by Corinda.
+ Twenty Stunners with A Nail Writer by Franklin M. Chapman.
+ A Boon For All Seasons by Eric Mason & Barrie Richardson.
+ The Swami Gimmick by Sam Dalal.
+ SYZYGY on SWAMI by Lee Earle.
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On 2002-04-04 10:52, Platt wrote:
I've tried the boon and nail writer and far and away prefer the nail writer.

Agreed

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The idea of asking someone to just think of a number and you'll read their mind and write down what they're thinking is cool. But, of course, this bold statement is always followed up with- "Okay, what number were you thinking of?" Why should they have to tell you if you just wrote it down.

I don't think that this is in Corinda or Chapman books I have, but I normally use the NW with a marked deck of cards where a card is selected but not looked at. Ostensibly you write the card name BEFORE having had the card identified by anyone.
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