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I was wondering, is it recommended that I follow these dvd's in order? Or can I pick and choose which set of sleights I want to learn? Also, how hard are these for someone that's only known sleight is the Elmsley count?

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They do not need to be followed in order. But if all you know is the Elmsley, the name of this series is "Advanced". Might be more than you're ready for.

Have you gone the route of Royal Road and Expert Card Technique?
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Then why is it advertised on hocus pocus as 'Go from beginner to expert in 8 easy lessons with card pro Allan ackerman!' ??
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It will take a beginner "someone who has general experience in many aspects" to the next step.

I would just be careful. I would buy them anyway because they are good. Plus you can buy just the ones you are interested in. There is one on controls, different counts, etc. I have the ones on false shuffles and false deals. They are good but will take work.
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I really don't think these DVDs are for beginners. They are on topics that are a little more advance than beginner. As you can see, the first vol is on palming; not a simple sleight. A lot of the dvds also refer to the utility dvd, I think you'll need to pick that one up as well.
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I don't think this series is for beginners either. As Jimmy Cards says, it will take the 'advanced' beginner to the next level. Wolfie, if you do decide to go with this type of DVD set, then also consider Daryl's series 'Encyclopedia of Card Sleights'. I have both and overall, I prefer Daryl. However, the Ackerman false deals Volume is much more comprehensive than Daryl. If you want a solid and relatively inexpensive introduction to basic card sleights , then I would highly recommend Vol 6 and 7 of Gerry Griffin's Complete Card Magic series. These include 14 forces, 7 shuffle methods, 6 card flourishes, 10 famous cuts and 21 card sleights. This should keep you going for a while and combined with the book, the Royal Road to Card Magic, they represents the best value for money that I know of.

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I also have both sets and Daryl is the better choice for someone new to magic. You can start with Volume 1 and see how it is set up for beginners. He starts from the ground up, too slow for some perhaps even.

Ackerman teaches a lot of material that Daryl does not, and as noted earlier in the thread he also teaches many sleights in greater detail than Daryl. Both sets together are a powerful tool.

Please get a few books (if you have not done so already) and refer to the DVDs as you read along for reference. Royal Road and Card College are great investments!
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I have Royal Road but have found that I'm more of a 'visual' person when it comes to learning card sleights. Does Daryl teach any tricks on his encyclopedia or is it just the sleights?
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Like other recommended...

check these out first...

royal road to card magic
daryl encyclopedia of card sleights
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Yes, I agree that the sleights are a foundation for everything else, but are sleights enough w/o having an effect or two that also utilizes these sleights?
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On 2004-11-12 07:18, wulfie66 wrote:
Yes, I agree that the sleights are a foundation for everything else, but are sleights enough w/o having an effect or two that also utilizes these sleights?


I find that effects/tricks motivate the learning of sleights. That's why I enjoy this series more than daryl's. don't get me wrong, daryl's is very good... just less tricks.
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Allen is great, but for beginners?
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This series is a great tool for beginers and intermediate magicians a like. Allen is a great teacher, and with this series its fine to pick and choose.
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Its been said before, but bears repeating..the 2 series, Daryl's and Allan's, compliment in each other in many ways; I think there is really only a 40% overlap in material; the controls, false shuffles and utlitlies DVDs for Allan are especially strong. Get them both if you can.
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Also if you want to learn some good tricks check out Easy to Master Card Miracle dvd series Smile
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