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magicman03
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What is all the controversy about this dvd? Do they really not give credit where its due?
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Apparently, magic makers stole all the moves and they are teaching it incorrectly.... so I guess the people that are mad would rather have magic makers steal the moves and teach it correctly so that no one would ever buy the original products...
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Makes sense to me.
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I guess if it does make sense then that means its ok for them to take like say moves of your own if you had any of course and teach it to beginners or novices out there so more people would think that theyre doing the move the right way. And therefore when these beginners start doing these moves and others see theyre doing them improperly itll make these newbies seem like idiots who think theyre doing the right move well in the end.
Good job iamslow and fingerjack.

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Read past posts.
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Yes, read the past posts and see how horrible this DVD really is. Teaching moves wrong should be a crime. Doesn't matter about stolen vs nonstolen, the moves are just taught wrong.
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I never said this dvd was good, I was just stating a point. Just look what they called the faro shuffle....
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Me neither, I've never seen it. I was commenting on your humor, Xfactor obviously does not have a sense of humor. Another one of those super touchy folks I suppose. Thanks for the kind words on our fine job!
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I guess xfactor didn't get the joke...
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Out of curiosity, how do so many people know that the moves are taught wrong if they don't own the DVD? Yes, the demo was horrible, but please tell me where everyone is seeing the teaching and explanations that they are so quick to condemn?

It's like Zombie movies. There were Zombie flicks way before Romero's LIVING DEAD TRILOGY were made, but he set the standard that is still copied today by every major production company. When stuff like 28 DAYS, RESIDENT EVIL, and the never ending remakes and spoofs on the Zombie genre surface, you don't see George Romero and his fans freaking out and waging war, they just either deal with it or embrace it because in the scheme of things, they are all in the same boat. I see MM doing just that, trying to cash in on the trend with something of subpar quality and aimed at a specific audience, and in case any people here in the states forgot, that's the American way.

Incidentally, I am not supporting MM, just wondering where everyone is getting their facts. Who actually has the disc that can confirm the teaching is as bad as the demo? And really, how do you teach the Charlier wrong?
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A lot of ppl have it. I don't.
sorry about this but: ARE YOU STUPID??
so it's ok to teach other ppls moves??? YES ppl KNOW FOR SURE they are wrong. havn't you read ANY of the reviews???

Of course you can teach the charlier wrong... wrong meaning BAD BAD BAD...


sorry man. but.. lol. From what I'we heard about this DVD, seen in the promo, read in reviews... it's all bad. and wrong. and stealing. theys stealing MOVES not like you say a trend. xcm is a thrend. not the moves themselves :S
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C'mon Burns, it that really necessary? Excuse me, but I'm not stupid. Although I gather from your mean spirited post that you are a simply victim of yourself.

Please show me where I said teaching other people's moves was ok? Are you so naiive that you actually thinking ripping people off only exists in our tiny world of magic (sorry, your tinier world of XCM)? I could walk through your bedroom right now and find over a hundred things you have bought and supported that were ripped off by someone else, but you are just to ignorant to realize it. I don't condone it, but it's been around long before you and I were born in ways far more important and relevant than what you are so concerned about.

Why would I bother reading reviews for a disc I don't care about and don't want? Only someone stupid would do that (hint, hint).

So, pardon me Burns and excuse me deeply for asking such stupid questions at a magic forum about a DVD that everyone is bashing. It was just a question. Sure, you can teach a charlier to a monkey, but selling it is a different story. Besides, I've seen your site and your videos, and you really shouldn't be giving anyone advice until you tighten up quite a bit.

I don't see why so many people in this forum are so mean spirited. Your remarks were quite uncalled for. Some brotherhood.
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I have the DVD, and they do teach the charlier wrong! The dude uses his middle finger.LOL this DVD teaches lots more wrong. It's really sad.
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Charlier with the middle finger? Hold on a sec....

Eureka! That aint so bad! I can Charlier and pick my nose with the same hand AT THE SAME TIME! I like the ingenuity. Maybe I'll pick this up after all.
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Flippin hilarious.
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Well said fingerjack:)
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Sorry. I didn't mean to be mean... uhm.. yeah.

I was a bit harsh because I sensed you though the DVD was ok to sell. well I don't, since I support the creator of some of the moves in there. I just dislike this DVD a lot. I think it's a shame for xcm.

sorry if I offended you.

I'm just concerned about things beeing real. I don't like ripoffs. I may have rip-offs in my room. but not that I know about. and I can't really do anything about that. (PS: I have no magic tricks, gimmicks or anything like that) and yeah... ripoff isn't only something you see in magic (or xcm. didn't quite get what you wrote).


Sorry if you have the opinion of me as "mean". when I think back. this is the only "mean" post I have made. and I thought about it before I posted. didn't wa't it to be THAT bad. sorry you took it that way.

about my, my style, and my site. I'we seen your site to. If you really think my videos are bader that the Showoff promo. please tell me where to improve. we are all in the same boat.

about the "brooderhood". just don't like DVD's killing the XCM brootherhood (lol).


hope we are ok?
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Burns,

That was a gentlemanly post. Of course we are ok, bro. Call me a troublemaker, but I really just try to mediate all the negativity around here and put things into a broader perspective. No offense taken (yeah, I may be stupid, but don’t tell everyone for cripes sakes). I emailed you bout your chops.

About the disc. I’m borrowing a copy from a student and I will check it out for myself. One thing is for sure, any publicity is good publicity. If it’s that much a dastardly goof up, it’s worth owning for comedies sake and I will buy one. I collect oddities. If anyone is totally sincere about fighting the piracy, they would simply ignore it instead of drawing attention to it. Time tested and doctor approved.
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Didn't get any e-mail.. ever
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I used the email with your profile, I sent you an PM instead.
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