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ROBERT BLAKE Inner circle 1472 Posts |
I have heard that it is possible to do a Double Straitjacket Escape. Does somebody has some information about this for me. How the second straitjacket is fastened, etc.. Or PM me if you can help me out here.
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
The only double sj escapes. I have seen has been with a sj then they would use a transport jacket. I hope this helps you out.
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Markdini New user Peterborough UK 52 Posts |
That's the only one I've heard of as well. Looks rather difficult to me!
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MarkTripp Special user Michigan 618 Posts |
Well, if you are using the Canon set up, you have a MIRACLE.
In reality you need the double as the first jacket kinda "falls off" when you do the bit, the second covers that perfectly and then you finish. I have thought rather than the rolling about that most do, we should do it like the movies. Even with the mirror ball if you can. Let that "going into a trance" part sell, then zoom, you are free! |
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AJP807 Special user New York City 559 Posts |
I seem to remember seeing Bill Shirk doing an upside down double jacket escape a few years back. If my memory is correct he did not use the Cannon setup nor did he use a transport jacket but two Humane jackets I believe, with the first one put on in the standard manner, and the second one with the arms wrapped around the body. He may also have been doing this over an alligator pit, but I will have to check his biography or DVD for confirmation.
Best regards, Tony Parisi Hey Mark, I love that "Tony Curtis self induced trance escape method" But what I really think set the mood and built the suspense in that scene was that great musical score. I wish there was a way to simulate that. Any ideas guys? I'm always impressed with the great suggestions that come out of this board. Best regards, Tony Parisi |
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
Charley Myrick used a two-straightjacket escape to close his show in the late 70’s (is Charley still performing?). He would allow audience members (usually two guys) to decide in advance how they wanted to “truss” him up. They could use one or both jackets. Most often they simply used just the one.
The only other “double” straightjacket escape that I am aware of is the one mentioned above. That is, a person is placed into a straightjacket and then has a “transport” jacket put over that. The transport jacket is really a sleeveless bag affair. Imagine an armless straightjacket, buckles up the back and crotch strap. It usually has nylon web belting or leather “handles” on the sides so that attendants can manage or control the individual belted up inside (or so the patter goes). It would be of absolutely no value added to use two straight jackets for an escape. One would be put on and the other would just have the arms tied around it (thus the invention of the transport jacket). Mark, I know that John Novak, Steranko, David DeVal, Ron London, and Simon Lovell, and all performed a stand-up type of straightjacket escape. None of them favored the flop around on the floor method. Granted that none of them really did the “Tony Curtis trance” bit. All of them tended to show a struggle from the waist up and from, from time to time, one or another of them actually bent at the waist (like a bow) in their struggle to free themselves from the jacket. Steranko’s presentation was unique in that he never worked the sleeves over his head. His upright struggle was to free an arm inside the jacket, work the crotch strap free (thru the material), then rotate the jacket until the back buckles were in front then work them open (rotating the jacket freed the other arm). His was close to the Tony Curtis presentation. Of course that was back in the 60’s when he worked. Right now, about the only place I am doing the Straightjacket escape is in some pretty grimy venues. I hate walking on the floors much less flopping around or even kneeling on them! My escape is strictly stand-up and struggle. OK, the real reason I don't do the flop around version is that I am an old geezer and not as agile as I was 25 years ago! ("Isn't it a shame that a clean, little, old man, has to resort to this to earn a living!?" is often heard at my performances!) I plan to try your suggestion and do the Steranko version paired with the Tony Curtis trance. Maybe it will sell!
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MarkTripp Special user Michigan 618 Posts |
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On 2004-11-14 09:07, AJP807 wrote: Well, find the music you want to use. Hint? Live and let die soundtrack.... |
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Kondini Inner circle 3609 Posts |
Given a choice of a double or single SJ escape and looking at it from a performance point of view, rather than "Im out to impress other ea`s" Viewpoint then the single is the one. Yes stood with facial expression rather than rolling around the floor. I know because both were on offer to a national TV company, both were taped and the single was chosen for broadcast (They should know whats best for their broadcasts, as its their living) I was just a paid performer told to stand on the X spot and get out of the SJ.
Funny this cropped up, as only a week ago I sent a tape which shows this to be true to Tony. Be guided by the experts,do as you are told for others can see you in a way that you will never see yourself. The enproduct will be more than to your likeing and your overall image become more proffesional. |
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GreatWizardoftheEast Regular user Knoxville, TN 124 Posts |
What is the 'canon setup'?
Harold White
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MarkTripp Special user Michigan 618 Posts |
Ummm....
It is a "special" jacket under another canvas wrap. I can't say enough good things about doing them both at once. It looks impossible. |
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Graham_Salisbury New user UK 68 Posts |
The Robert Gallop "Glass Box by the Thames" escape shown on the BBC series "MAGIC" (mentioned in another thread)had Mr Gallop wearing 2 strait jackets from which he escaped ... just in time ...
I know this doesn't help answer your question but I thought you might find it interesting that it was performed on TV this weekend (13 November). |
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CARNEGIE Loyal user 267 Posts |
In the mid 70's Steve Baker presented the Double Straightjacket escape on Dick Clark Live Wednesday. He used a regulation straightjacket and a transport jacket. The escape was done hanging upside down from a burning rope on Live TV.
Also, the escape was postponed from the original date because Steve was injured during rehearsals for the show.He actually dislocated his arm and paramedics were called in to assist him. They would not allow him to go through with the escape later that night. He did appear that night on TV with Dick Clark, and was invited back to appear two weeks later. This time everything went smoothly. Just a side note to Mark Tripp. I've really enjoyed your Karrels Kitchen Table Column. Those are moving stories that really speak to the heart. I may have to just post one of my own true life lessons soon. Good job Mark. |
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
Hi Carnegie,
Did the sj that Steve Baker used have the front and side loops? Cheers, Roslyn
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CARNEGIE Loyal user 267 Posts |
Roslyn,
I just went back and reviewed the video, no the sj didn't have the loops. It does have the crotch strap and the SJ is not put on by Steve's people. The double SJ is certainly a site to see. |
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
The sj he used I beleive was a posey sj.
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
Thanks for that.
So has anyone seen this done with front and side loops that doesn't use the Cannon's method?
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EscapeMaster Loyal user 296 Posts |
Yes. I am all but sure Max Cita used to do this escape until he started having body problems. Amazing man.
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
WOW! That is impressive. Not sure if a lay audience would really know the difference as has been said earlier, but I'd certainly like to see that.
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Don Randini New user 67 Posts |
I heard baker didn't really get injured doing the sj. it just was just for affect to make the viewer think it was really death defying. the clip I saw of the clark show with the sj, you could have put 3 people in it, it was that loose!
Don Just to follow-up. the whole idea is to fool the audience anyway, and he did. so I would call it a success. Don |
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
That might of been a trick 3 people in a sj and another person attempting to get out of it.
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