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mOzerian
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A penny for your thoughts please lads, and ladies.

http://www.amazing1.com/hyp.htm

Are these devices for real !!!
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They're all biofeedback devices. ("Super-charged memory," faster healing, better reaction times, performance enhancement... all have been shown to occur after relaxation training, like meditation).

You want to go cheap? Get toy mood rings--in bulk. Scientists have been using them in studies in resource-constrained environments.
mOzerian
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Toy mood rings, what will they do to me...apart from change colour on my finger.

Have you had experience, with this electronic hypnosis device....I understand the principle, But it confuses me that one the person is induced by other means than your voice, How does your suggestions suddenly become perceptible to them.

It would be like talking to somone who is sleeping...yah...
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Really Just a meditation tool.

Much less useful than guided hypnosis.

As to suggestions given in that state, they would not be strong, for several reasons. The main one being the subject has not been focussing on your voice during the process.

The proteus appears to be a device that simulates phosphenes. This is the effect you get when you rub your eyes. You see sort of a little fireworks display. These devices were experimented with under test conditions in the early 80s and found to be useless.

Dave Everett
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Hi
They are widely available E.g. http://www.lifetools.com/lightandsounddevices/mind_lab.html but you can get much cheaper versions as well as the more expensive.
These are devices which produce strobing light and sound pulses at different frequencies, rates and with the stereo effect of both light and sound either in sync or slightly out of sync. They aren’t really biofeedback as they are all pre-programmed/programmable.
I have read a paper once on them that concluded the visuals rather than the audio was responsible for the majority of the effect. They usually come with audio-in too so you could play tapes/cds with suggestions on during the sequence(or turn audio off). There are no other suggestions provided ie they are only trance inducing(see Pzizz though). There are also books written on the subject but I don’t know how thorough or reliable their research is.
Ormond Mcgill in his encyclopaedia mentions the use of strobe lighting for hypnotic effect. I have experimented with this and I can say, subjectively, the normal strobe has far less effect than the light/sound boxes. The latter can produce a powerful effect, deeply relaxing, highly stimulating, etc. depending on the program; all very hard to describe to anyone who hasn’t seen and heard for themselves.

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Nick.
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I will make note that in the 1960s the USSR were doing experiments based on the theories associated with Hypnosis and how it affects parts of the human brain. They developed a system that's typically referred to as "Russian Sleep Induction". Simply put, a series of electrodes were placed on the subject's head and arms, a switch was flipped and voila! They are instantly in a deep hypnotic state.

Several years ago I did a short-lived comedy act based on this premise, using some on-the-spot cuing of the participants as well as the insights shared by Orville Meyer in his booklet "Telepathy in Action".

Just thought I'd drop my two-cents in on the topic.
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Yeah, they whole area does sound something kind of old-world, mad hypnotist meets mad professor with hints of MKUltra and b-movies.

You can get something called alpha-stim which uses electrodes to aim to do something similar, not the flip-switch variety though!

Regrds,
Nick.
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Those toys looklike a lot of fun but are totally not needed! They are just toys. You don't need them to use hypnosis or a meditative trance. They are expensive gimmiks.

Shrink
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Okay, I've only seen the one where you can change the frequency with your pulse--that's biofeedback. If Nick is right, and you can program things in, then it's not.

Mood rings: one color is for anxiety, one is for calm. Have them try to move from anxiety to calm.

Dave is right too: suggestions would tend to be less effective. The only reasonable differences between hypnosis and, say, meditation or yoga, is (1) hypnosis opens you up to positive experiences via enhanced suggestibility and (2) allows you to continue to have positive experiences via post-hypnotic suggestion. We can't define, empirically, any other differences.

It's an expensive sticker on the wall if you ask me.
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