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TheFish727
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Munch, what effect of sankey's are your talking about
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Fish,
you should do some research! I am not exactly sure what the name of it is but if you are curious then watch every video of Sankey on Penguin. I think I saw it on there. the address is http://www.penguinmagic.com
Look deep within yourself for inspiration
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I have mAny of sankeys videos and DVD and I Rev. coin magic and if it is a three fly effect then it would be on there. there are many coins aross but none similar to three stylin'
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I have seen Lee show 'three stylin', and its a very visual effect and easy to follow the routine, due to it's use of coloured poker chips, I have always found it difficult to follow coins.
Nice and neat effect.
Remember the effect should entertain a non lay audience too. So I would recommend this effect for your competition.
The use of chips makes it completely international.
Dave
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I just don't understand why someone would settle for a routine that has only one coin/chip "flying" across while there are routines out there, McClintock and Kranzo's, that have two different coin/chips "flying" across. This is justmy observation. Cheers,

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On 2005-10-03 23:38, coinmagic143 wrote:
I just don't understand why someone would settle for a routine that has only one coin/chip "flying" across while there are routines out there, McClintock and Kranzo's, that have two different coin/chips "flying" across. This is justmy observation. Cheers,

Bill



C'mon man. Poker is huge right now! You cannot turn on the TV without seeing some poker game on at least one station. Asher's routine is current. Lee did this for me before he even put it out. I thought he had some special chips because I sure as hell saw every chip flying! That is the way it is structured. I perform this routine for the larger tables at the restaurants where I perform (angles permitting). It kills! A buddy of mine who has seen it a couple times told me that I must have six chips, yet my hands never came near eachother(hehe)! I have seen a pile of three-fly routines and this is my favorite. The only one I perform!
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I understand what you are saying and yes I agree using chips is MORE up to date than coins. However, my question is why use a routine in which only ONE coin goes vice a routine where you are able to get TWO coins across. Again this is just my opinion. The Asher routine is OK, but I prefer one of the other routines I mentioned. So to me it's not whether the chip is better than the coin, it's about the construction of the routine. Cheers,

Bill
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Hey 143, if you're looking for something different in a 3-Fly as obviously 3-Stylin ain't doing it for you, then take a look at Mickey Silver's "Spit Fly," it's absolutely magical and a very different take/approach on all this fingertip coins across stuff. It's amazingly different than anything out there in the 3-Fly family of things! Smile
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I understand what you are saying and yes I agree using chips is MORE up to date than coins. However, my question is why use a routine in which only ONE coin goes vice a routine where you are able to get TWO coins across. Again this is just my opinion. The Asher routine is OK, but I prefer one of the other routines I mentioned. So to me it's not whether the chip is better than the coin, it's about the construction of the routine. Cheers,

Bill


You are thinking like a magician. The audience believes that all the chips travel...
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...it's about the construction of the routine...


You are thinking like a magician. The audience believes that all the chips travel...


On a good day, all they will remember is whether or not they liked you and your magic.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Magic W/HART, I do understand what you are saying and I guess it's just a personal preference of mine knowing two go instead of one. I think Asher has a good routine and I'm sure audiences, laymen and magician, enjoy the routine and that's awesome, just not for me.

Mb, where could I see a performance of Spit Fly?

JT, your right, when it's all said and done it boils down to whether they enjoyed you as a performer and your magic. Again, it just boils down to personal preference. Now to get back to the original reasoning for this post, I don't believe this routine would be good for a competition. Thanks for your input guys. Cheers,

Bill
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You are thinking like a magician. The audience believes that all the chips travel...

Is this true? My understanding is that each of the three chips is a different color, but in each phase of the routine, the red chip is the only one that travels. Somebody please clarify.
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There is a video clip of the routine done somewhere around, posted recently. Yes, the red chip flies thrice. The routine seems to flow nicely and unless you make a point of announcing the colors, the thing should go by smoothly.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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It is the red chip that flies every time, yet the way Lee structures the routine, he never calls attention to the colors. To laymen it just seems like three poker chips fly from one hand to the other.

Check it out at http://www.leeasher.com/three_stylin.htm

On his lecture tour Lee can never keep these sets in stock. The poker chips are shimmed as well, which allows you to ditch the last chip with a magnet, etc...
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On a good day, all they will remember is whether or not they liked you and your magic.


Jonathan, this is the best thing you have ever said in your 10,473+ posts! All performing magicians should tack it on their wall and read it every day!

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Coinmagic43, you gotta reach out to Mickey Silver. It's on one of his free dvd's that he sends around. You're gonna love it, along with all the other stuff on the disk! Smile
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Mb, thanks I appreciate that and Mickey did PM me saying he'd be willing to send out the DVD, so I'll have to wait til I get back into town. Thanks again,

Cheers,

Bill
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It is the red chip that flies every time, yet the way Lee structures the routine, he never calls attention to the colors.


Then why even use chips of different colors? By using different colored chips, you are calling attention to it.

The ad at the link above states, “Without color, you have just another standard coin effect,” and “Without any fast movements or flashy distractions, the chips begin traveling across magically to the left hand – one at a time!”

The implication here is that the effect is more spectacular than a standard three-fly because three unique and different objects travel from one hand to the other. If it's just one chip traveling three times, you’re defeating the entire purpose of using uniquely colored objects in the first place. And thus, the effect is actually less impressive than one with same-colored chips, or... COINS, because in a coin routine, even if the same coin travels each time, the audience is unwaware of it because they all look the same.

Anybody?
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You can create a lot of magical moments in a spectators mind using discrepancies. Classic sleight of hand routines are full of them. The Elmsley Count a widely used move found in hundreds of tricks that has a rather glaring discrepancy, yet if flies by laymen every time.
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On 2005-10-06 22:07, sullivanl wrote:
It is the red chip that flies every time, yet the way Lee structures the routine, he never calls attention to the colors.


Then why even use chips of different colors? By using different colored chips, you are calling attention to it.

The ad at the link above states, “Without color, you have just another standard coin effect,” and “Without any fast movements or flashy distractions, the chips begin traveling across magically to the left hand – one at a time!”

The implication here is that the effect is more spectacular than a standard three-fly because three unique and different objects travel from one hand to the other. If it's just one chip traveling three times, you’re defeating the entire purpose of using uniquely colored objects in the first place. And thus, the effect is actually less impressive than one with same-colored chips, or... COINS, because in a coin routine, even if the same coin travels each time, the audience is unwaware of it because they all look the same.

Anybody?


Have you ever done three stylin for lay people? Didn't think so...I don't know how many times I can say this, LAY PEOPLE THINK THAT EVERY CHIP TRAVELS! Until you have (honestly) tried it for a lay audience don't knock it. Think of it this way, if you are using identical coins for three-fly I believe it is much easier for an observant spectator to guess that you have an extra coin. With the multi colored chips you are getting credit for something you don't even do. Lee lives three blocks away from me and he showed me this before it was ever released, I thought that he had some gimmicked chips because I SAW every chip travel. I should mention that at the time I was familiar with other routines ala Kenner, Townsend, Wilson, Kranzo, etc.
Nuff said, IMHO.
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