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It went over well at my monthly S.A.M meeting a couple of months ago.
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I bought this booklet years ago and am only now happily starting working on it after getting good at Daryl's Three Fly III. Lee Asher has lots of videos on his newly remodeled site, but not Three Stylin'. Is a professional performance on a video somewhere?

Many times I have heard that no one notices that only the red chip moves. Excuse me for being skeptical. If I am nervous about this, wouldn't it make sense to let either of the more easily confused blue or green do the hopping? Lee must have picked red for a reason. Help me, why?
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I received green instead of red. I have green, blue, and white. I think using red would be more visual though.
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Yes, red seems more visual to me too. That is why I worried that letting it do all the hopping might help a deconstructionist realize only one chip was hopping. If instead of red (or white) you let green (or blue) hop, it would seem less likely the forensic-minded spectator figured it only one moved, i.e., the method.

Lee Asher clearly thought the spectator would not be aware only one hopped. Maybe he chose red arbitrarily? I just do not want to be missing some point about using red.
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I think this is being over-analyzed. IMO the spectators will not be aware of which colors move across unless the magician points it out. To them, three chips go from hand to hand one at a time, period.
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I've never been questioned about it. I don't mention the colors either.
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I love this routine, but have rarely performed it since I don't have a good way to ditch in the end. What methods do you use?
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I think it's fun, and I think it looks like magic.
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The perception with the presentation is that all three coins travle. don't over think the perception of the laymen! you call attention to the first chip the second chip and the third chip. not the red chip, the green chip, and the white chip! this is a very powerful effect if YOUR presentation and timing are well rehersed.
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If you use the bicycle 11.5g poker chips, they have that little something in them that Lee Asher's chips have to make the ditch at the end easier. ceers,

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I've seen a number of people perform this effect while I was sitting with my lay friends or with laymen I didn't know, and on MOST of these occasions someone commented that only the red chip moved.

Audience members are often too polite. Just because they don't say anyting doesn't mean they didn't catch you. I don't like this trick. I think it's very obvious and this is only from experience with comments from my lay friends.

Even if you don't mention the colors, laymen aren't as stupid as you think.
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I like Lee's construction of the trick, but I was expecting a C/S type chip instead of a 'extra' poker chip.

Good routining, though I would of perfered more than just one color jumping across.
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Audience members are often too polite. Just because they don't say anyting doesn't mean they didn't catch you. I don't like this trick. I think it's very obvious and this is only from experience with comments from my lay friends.

Even if you don't mention the colors, laymen aren't as stupid as you think.


mfeld,

I agree with that,that is why I never like that trick either.

WZ,
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To each his own. I've been accused of using magnets and asked if they were real poker chips. By the way, some of these people are teachers and lawyers.
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To each his own. I've been accused of using magnets and asked if they were real poker chips. By the way, some of these people are teachers and lawyers.


why is it bad that teachers and lawyers are asking if they are real poker chips? They might not be - there are a ton of threefly variatiosn with gaffs and some with magnets. Those are perfectly reasonable questions in my opinion.
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On 2008-03-07 01:54, sleightofhander wrote:
To each his own. I've been accused of using magnets and asked if they were real poker chips. By the way, some of these people are teachers and lawyers.


why is it bad that teachers and lawyers are asking if they are real poker chips? They might not be - there are a ton of threefly variatiosn with gaffs and some with magnets. Those are perfectly reasonable questions in my opinion.
Did I say It was bad? My main point is that they weren't asking me why only the red chip was going. I don't perform it as written in the instructions. I came up with my own routine using ideas from Geoff Latta, Troy Hooser, Michael Rubinstein. Lee Asher challenges you in the instructions to change the routine if you don't like the fact that only one chip travels.
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On 2008-03-07 01:54, sleightofhander wrote:
To each his own. I've been accused of using magnets and asked if they were real poker chips. By the way, some of these people are teachers and lawyers.


why is it bad that teachers and lawyers are asking if they are real poker chips? They might not be - there are a ton of threefly variatiosn with gaffs and some with magnets. Those are perfectly reasonable questions in my opinion.
Did I say It was bad? My main point is that they weren't asking me why only the red chip was going. I don't perform it as written in the instructions. I came up with my own routine using ideas from Geoff Latta, Troy Hooser, Michael Rubinstein. Lee Asher challenges you in the instructions to change the routine if you don't like the fact that only one chip travels.


Ahhh... Ok

I guess I just missunderstood your comment in the context of the conversation. My bad.
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Ok I've been performing this effect off and on for a long time. My conclucion is too many people notice the discrepancy for it to be a REAL worker. That is only if you follow Lee's handling (which in all honesty is a little cozy for me...then again he works primarily with cards but I digress). I developed a similiar yet different handling. The first and second phases are just variations of handling points but they follow the original effect. The third phase breaks completely with what Lee has and gives you the ability to send one of the other chips across at the end. You don't need any more chips than what came with the original set.
In my opinion it has made all the difference. Here is my theory of why: the first chip is a surprise (sort of, I tell them it will go across but I don't tell them when), The second chip follows the precedence set by the first. Now the audience is paying attention and this is where the discrepancy is weakest. They know which chip went on the second phase so the third needs to break the pattern NOT support it as Lee's original handling does.

With a little thought I'm sure you guys can come up with something similiar to what I have and it really makes a big difference.
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Looks like it was a good routine.


https://youtu.be/f3__aetZb7s
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