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Kard16 Regular user 144 Posts |
Now I know this is a well known issue (BTW if this topic has been done please tell me)
Gimmick cards like the rough and smooth and double facers etc are making it so that you dont need to perform very hard to do slieghts. It is going one step further because of technology (Most of John Kennedy's product for example). Do you all feel this is taking away from magic or just adding to it? |
Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
Kard 16 writes: ". . .double facers, etc. are making it so that you don't need to perform very hard to do sleights."
Really? Tell that to Johann Hofzinser, who is generally credited with creating the double facer and who is the undisputed father of card magic! Believe me, if all the gimmicked materials of today were available in his time, or the time of Leipzig, Carter, Houdini, and even as recently as Blackstone Sr., they would have used what was on hand. Sleights are fine. So are gimmicks. So are sleights and gimmicks. Purists would argue that they only use sleights and, therefore, remain "underground magicians". Definition of an "underground magician": Someoneone who knows 468 ways to palm a card and not one way to entertain an audience. |
Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
Peter, how do you REALLY feel?
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
Okay, sorry for beating around the bush!
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Chris A. Inner circle AKA Chris A. 1123 Posts |
Great post peter!
I was just reading an essay by regal where he states we should strive for purity of "effect" rather than purity of "method". And whilst I agree that it's fun to be able to do stuff anytime with a borrowed deck, there are tons of effects that be done only with a gaff. Fun stuff like Bannons "tattoo you" come to mind...
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Lance Pierce Special user 878 Posts |
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On 2002-09-06 20:14, Kard16 wrote: What you may be overlooking is that a sleight (because it is a means to an end) is also a technology. As such, I don't know if sleights carry any greater weight then gimmicks do as far as what will achieve good, sound magic. Each has their place and, when used in conjunction with each other, each can produce remarkable results that can't be explained by either alone. Cheers, TCR |
Dr. Jakks Special user 832 Posts |
YEs, if only people would realise that it is the effect and not the method.
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Lance Pierce Special user 878 Posts |
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YEs, if only people would realise that it is the effect and not the method. Jakks, I remember my very first magic convention. Dai Vernon lectured. As he demonstrated some really beautiful effects and routines, I found myself unable to stay in my chair, and I walked around to the side, where I could see the Professor slightly from behind. He gave me a little smile and kept talking, and what I learned then in my early years was that with some magic -- the kind of magic I grew to love most dearly -- the method could be just as beautiful as the effect. This is because the method can be so well conceived and constructed that it is perfectly efficient, perfectly artistic, and perfectly in harmony with all the elements of the magical piece, including the effect itself. I think of the method as akin to the brush strokes on the painting, and the effect as the image and mood that the painting portrays. Obviously, in order to achieve that image and mood, not just any brush strokes can be thrown up there, for any change will change the overall picture. So, while I wish I could agree with you wholeheartedly, and while I DO know what you mean, I find the method to be of critical importance, and when examining effects, not any method will do. It must be the BEST method, one that works seamlessly, fluidly, and well hidden. This is what an artistic method is: efficient, without baggage, and aesthetic...perhaps just as aesthetic as the effect the audience sees. Cheers, TCR |
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