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Zaw
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Cut Deeper force is pretty good for any routine.
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OOTW or cutting four aces -- these are tricks with visual appeal but self-working in method alllowing you too concentrate on presentation skills. Basically any trick which is simple in effect -- I love loads of self-workers but do the layman?
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Harald: I'd be curious as to your thoughts AFTER you check out my work.
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On 2010-03-28 17:17, rabbit_box86 wrote:
OOTW or cutting four aces -- these are tricks with visual appeal but self-working in method alllowing you too concentrate on presentation skills. Basically any trick which is simple in effect -- I love loads of self-workers but do the layman?


rabbit_box86,

I am rather curious about your comment concerning laypersons. If your magic is such that the non-magician can tell the DIFFERENCE between sleight heavy or what Stewart James referred to as "muscle magic" and actual sleight of hand, then perhaps your question is best answered by figuring out HOW they could POSSIBLY know the difference. If the layperson know you are doing a ton of sleights in an effect then you are not doing those sleights properly. ("You" meaning an hypothetical you, not as in YOU) (Grammar hosts, do please notice the proper use of the indefinite article "an" before a word beginning with "h". I have seen few of you do it properly Smile )

rabbit_box86, when a non-musician is listening to music, she or he is not thinking, "Oh, THIS song is better because the artist used a Caug5 as a nice passing tone to F, or, very clever use of Ebdim9 on THIS song which makes it better than the previous song which was a simple I-IV-vii-V-I simple chordal progression." What I am trying to illustrate is that you are too close to your own magic - and by this I mean you specifically now. You are so tied to method, that you equate method and effect. When you do that, it is time to take a breath and remember that EFFECT matters. More specifically, the more impossible an effect LOOKS to a lay audience the better your presentation has been. Method IS important insofar as it is a sound method that gets the effect done with maximum impact. (Hmm, too bad there is already a book by that title)

I will, for the 235th time quote the great master Theo Annemann when he said: "Effect is EVERYTHING." [emphasis mine] Done CORRECTLY, Jennings's "Impossible" is just as STRONG or should appear just as strong as Ortiz's "Pick Up on South Street." Certainly some effects are stronger intrinsically than others. Thus we have effects in our repertoires that serve better as openers and some as closers. Your act should smack them HARD at the beginning and climax to total annihilation at the close. But, everything you do should be strong. Method is a means; it is not the end.

When I was starting out - and I am not implying at all that you are new at this, and even if you were, it does not detract from you as a person - I would confuse the terms "easy" and "simple." That which is simple takes us from point a to ending in the most efficient means possible. Some of the simplest effects in existence are not in any way "easy." Read some Darwin Ortiz for just one of many examples.

Many times there is the propensity to get mired in method. Many people learn sleights but have no clue how to use them within a given framework. People are NOT going to be entertained by method. Yes, they WILL be entertained by displays of skill to a point. That is why a few flourishes are nice. But, the audience wants to be mystified. Effect, effect, effect ...

It is most difficult for us in the mystery arts however because we must by necessity conceal our skills. A juggler can wow the punters with 13 objects in the air, a pianist or other instrumentalist can shred on incredibly complex riffs and themes. But, the audiences seeing them are not there to be mystified.

So, I will answer your question in this manner: Laypersons LOVE magic when magic hits them hard, leaves them entertained, mystified, and annihilated.

Ahimsa,
Vlad

PS: Be careful of your statement too about any ace cutting effects. They run the gamut from virtually sleight of hand free to knucklebusters.
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"I will, for the 235th time quote the great master Theo Annemann when he said: "Effect is EVERYTHING."

Amen to that. The question was Best Sellf Working Card Trick and my answer is "anything visual and simple in efffect". Layman remember OOTW and Ace Cutting for the rest of there life. By ace cutting I mean not just to cut four piles and transfer cards but also Herb Zarrow Revolving Aces from Harry Lorayne first book.

Many self workers are bland, dry, to long etc. If someone said what is best sleight of hand trick my answer is the same: anything visual and simple.

Thanx for your advise vlad --- top respect. Ahimsa -- rabbit
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A potent presage
Jack Carpenter The expert portfolio #1
is a strong self-working effect
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I wouldn't say that this is the best self working card trick, but it's certainly very strong in my books.

Gemini Twins also familarized as the Rainbow deck.
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For those that have mentioned OOTW, I really love Galaxy by Paul Harris which isn't exactly an impromptu version of the effect, but has the spectator handling cards pretty much the whole trick and it kills every time. I also really love Jaun Tamariz's Neither Blind Nor Stupid. As a matter of fact, if you do NBNS, then go right into Galaxy, the spectators see the cards have been shuffled and cut several times during the previous trick and it makes it that much more powerful.

As far as impromptu, almost "no work" effects, I always fall back on just doing a key card location - simple, can be done with a borrowed deck, no prep, and will fool any lay audience without any tears.
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Harry Loraynes, Out of This Universe. My favorite of the OOTW effects.
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The effect is the important thing, how you achieve it is not.......
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Worth mentioning again. (Threaded about this last year)
Mr. James Hamilton's: "Eyes Of The Gods".
This is on a Michael Maxwell vhs tape, 1992. I'll dig out the title and come back.
Update: "Mike Maxwell's Incredible Self-Working Card Tricks/Vol. #1")
(I trimmed down the ending, the reveals. In order to eliminate the face up dealing, just spread all the cards, face up, on the table.)
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One step ahead principle card trick is good thought!
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Occasionally I use B'Wave in corporate walkaround gigs
as its completley self working and gets great reactions.......
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Steven Youell's "The Card Trick That Has No Explanation" gets some of the best reactions I've seen from a card trick. It's not exactly self-working, more of a semi-automatic card trick.
You can find it in Steven's lecture notes, Weapons of Mass Destruction, which he is offering as a free download right now!
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I'm surprised that nobody mentions Twists of Fate by Aldo Colombini. What a beauty !
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The Wizard, a favorite of Steffi Storm's (aka Mrs. John Scarne) is a beauty. Maybe not the "greatest" but I love it. I use it with my children and it is a hoot. What is funny is when one of them calls for a legitimate purpose and they have to stop me when I go into the "routine".
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Chaos - Pitt Hartling. You have to remember the sequence of moves, but then it's pretty much self-working, and all can be examined at the end.
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I think the 21 trick is good as it can be learnt in minutes even for a beginer but can still quite impress and audience. It was one of the first tricks I ever learnt and the times I have performed it people have been impressed.
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On 2005-01-02 21:54, twistedace wrote:
SIDESWIPED hands down


Self-working, lol that is funny.
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On 2010-03-30 18:23, DemainPhoenix wrote:
A potent presage
Jack Carpenter The expert portfolio #1
is a strong self-working effect


This is my favorite! Too bad the portfolio is so hard to find, more people would be doing this self-working miracle!!
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I was looking out the window at the trees....and I just couldn't decide which one was "best".
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