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DaffyDoug: I didn't get it on ebay. As a matter of fact, it came from the used magic on this site.

I did a Google search on Untold Secrets of Slydini and found out that it is still sold by dealers for about $10. There is also a follow up Untold Secrets that deals with 5 Thumb Tip routines. It sells for about $4.

I agree that some of the written instructions are hard to follow and that a video would make this a lot easier. However, I was able to work through it and am now practicing it.

I wonder what other Slydini material is out there that he taught his students, but didn't publish?
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Probably tons of it! That would be my guess, as the master was quite prolific.
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Bill Wisch, one of Slydini's students put a lot of Slydini stuff on the I.C.O.M. website. You have to join to view it and I left my membership lapse, but there was a lot of good, new stuff there. It is called the Slydini Legacy. You can find the site at http://www.magicschool.com You have to join to get access to the Slydini material.

If anyone else knows of other Slydini sources, I would appreaciate the information.

Thanks

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On 2005-01-18 19:32, Cpontz wrote:
Bill Wisch, one of Slydini's students put a lot of Slydini stuff on the I.C.O.M. website. You have to join to view it and I left my membership lapse, but there was a lot of good, new stuff there. It is called the Slydini Legacy. You can find the site at http://www.magicschool.com You have to join to get access to the Slydini material.

If anyone else knows of other Slydini sources, I would appreaciate the information.

Thanks

Craig


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Daffy Doug: It costs about $25. It had a lot of good info on Slydini. I'm thinking of rejoining to see if more has been added.

Jonathan: Is the Pizza Plaza in NYC?
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Thanks!
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About 20 years ago, Tony was still performing at Imam's Mostly Magic club in New York City.
I was living in Toronto at the time and had just got Lewis Ganson's book on Slydini. It was there that I found out that his real name was Quintino Marucci, the last name being the same as mine.
I wondered if there was any connection and wrote to Slydini.
My wife and I went to New York shortly after, before I got a reply, and we went to Mostly Magic. As we pulled up in a cab, ahead of us was Slydini. I shouted to him about writing and asking if we were related, since we had the name Marucci. I didn't realize he was very hard of hearing and all he caught was "Marucci" and replied "Yes, yes, that's my name."
Afterwards, when we could sit down with him, the problem was straightened out and it turned out that he found out that his father and my grandfather were brothers.
He said, at that time, that I was the first Marucci he had come across in the U.S. and Canada in about 45 years.
The next day, a Sunday, we went to his apartment and he went on at great length explaining a few of his classic routines, including the saftey pins.
That was the last time I saw him.
He retired from performing shortly after that, and went to a nursing home in New Jersey. He died shortly thereafter.
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Marucci -- thanks for the historic information. I knew Tony by his real name too, and always wondered if you too were related.
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I just got around to reading the Jan. Linking Ring. There were articles about Cellini on Slydind, an article by a former student of Slydindi, Bill Wisch, and of course, showtime by Peter Marucci. It is amazing how many links to the Master there still are today.
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Peter. Thankyou for the wonderful colorful story that you shared. it creates very vivid pictures in my mind.

Man, you have something to be really proud of. Being related to Slydini. Magic is in the blood, is it not?
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There are two magicians who totally awed me, even when I knew every move they did, Dai Vernon and Slydini. I attended a Slydini lecture years ago, and even though I knew every move from books and other lectures, I never could catch him at it. He was a stickler , like Dai, for looking natural and practicing every single move. Now that is magic elevated from the level of craft to the highest level of art and science. I've managed to collect a number of tapes of Slydini performances over the years, and I can watch them for hours on end without ever growing tired of them. He was a good teacher in his lectures too. My favorite routine has been the four napkins into the box. Even when I knew he made the pass and drop, I could never catch him. His moves were just too smooth, too natural.
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I had a lesson with Slydini at one of the DMS's. I'm glad I did. I really understood what he was about. One thing that Bill Wisch will tell you is that Slydini did not want people to imitate him once they learned the moves. He wanted his students to fit the moves to their own mannerisms.

I knew a young lady here who did a number of Slydini's routines. Every time she performed one of them, she suddenly became someone else. The work was flawless, but it didn't fit her.

It was like she was wearing someone else's clothes.
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Every time she performed one of them, she suddenly became someone else.
I'm guilty of that myself Smile
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Interesting comments about Slydini...I had the pleasure/privilege of taking a private lesson from him in his apartment in NYC (which I remember being very modest indeed).....the comments about Slydini insisting on students replicating his moves absolutely are consisent with my experience....Slydini teaches magic not unlike a sensi in a Karate dojo teaches karate....a series of katas, very structured, but time-tested and can be assembled in a multitude of combinations not unlike rifts on a guitar (to switch metaphors in mainstream)...Bottom line he was not only the consumate artist but also the consumate technician.

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I will trade the jeff McBrides vol-1 world class manipulation for tony clarks sly scarfs, I live in uk.
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I had the opportunity to meet and sit with Tony on a number of occasions and it is difficult to pick a favorite effect because most of his material was great. The move that I use most is the IMP vanish but it is Tony’s teaching of the use of body language that most inspired me. He was a teacher, a friend, and will always be an inspiration.

There is an amusing Quentino Marucci (AKA Tony Slydini) story in “The funny side of magic”. It was the day of Tony’s first TV spot. Before the shoot he decided to perform for the film crew so that any critical camera angles could be addressed. After the pre-show performance, one of the crew asked Tony by what name did he want to be introduced. What is your stage name. At the time Tony was going by the stage name Tony Fool’em which is what he told the crew member. The crew member had just seen Tony’s show and commented: “No, you’re to SLY of a guy for a name like that.” From that off the wall comment, Tony got the inspiration for the name that is now known worldwide, Tony Slydini.

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I first met Tony in 1976, at The House of Magic, in San Francisco. Tony was a good friend of Palmer Tilden's, the owner of Sterling Magic at the time. Whenever he came to SF he stayed with either Palmer, Bill Whittington, or Gene Matsuura. Gene became one of Tony's best friends ever, and has written the Annotated Magic of Slydini. In fact, he and Tony were working on several books when Tony died. Gene was one of the pallbearers at a very private burial ceremony for Tony.

Anyway, I was friends with all the guys from SF, so naturally, when Tony came to town they introduced us. Tony was one of the kindest, most gentle, men I have known, right up there with Jack McMillen. Over the years, everytime he was in SF, Tony stopped into the magic store, where I worked. We became good friends. Eventually, because I had a large apartment right in downtown SF, Tony would stay with me when he came to town. This was great for me. He insisted on teaching me his magic, and refused to take anything for the lessons!

Everything folks have said about Tony's teaching methods is correct. He was like a drill sargeant. He insisted that you copy him exactly, until you could do the magic as he did it. What most people don't understand, usually because they stopped taking lessons too soon, is that once you reached that level of understanding, Tony EXPECTED you to change things. His problem was that he didn't know how to communicate his magic in any way OTHER than to have you copy him. He didn't have the language skills to communicate the subtle nuances of his magic, the misdirection, the timing, the mental gymnastics. So, in order to help you "get it" he forced you to copy and hoped that once you could do the magic, you would figure out how to adapt it to your own personality. IF you stuck with him long enough, he would help you with that, too. I remember going to Tony after months of work on a trick. I had learned it as he wanted me to. Then, I had adapted. He watched the adaptation and told me what he thought...

We worked on it and worked on it. And what I learned was timing, timing timing. I also learned WHY Tony used SHORT phrases: (1.) Look, Watch (2.) Come close, Hold tight, (3.) Can you see? Did you feel? (4.) Come a lttle closer..., Don't look away..., (6.) If you don't watch, you can't see..., I'll do it again, don't look away!

Each of those phrases has a DIFFERENT number of words, different number of syllables. So each filled a different length of TIME. This is one of the secrets to Tony's magic. He picked those phrases carefully, to help him with the timing of his moves...

Another thing that few people realize is that Tony did the opposite of what many people think he did. You've heard, I'm sure, the idea that Tony made the magic fit his natural mannerisms. No! He did not do that. He STARTED doing that, finding things that suited him. But he soon realized that he didn't have ENOUGH natural mannerisms to cover all the things he needed to do to make the magic happen. So, Tony DEVELOPED mannerisms PURPOSELY. He made a CONSCIOUS EFFORT to change the way he sat, gestured, relaxed; he added things to his natural body language. And he practiced those things until they BECAME natural to him. Then he used them to cover the sleights!

There is MUCH more to the psychology of Slydini's magic, but that gives you an inkling of how very involved it really is, and why so few people can really do it justice. I have a lot of video of Tony. All the Cavett shows, most of the commercial stuff, and some home video that has never been released. I watch from time to time, and it is like seeing real magic again. He was a master. There were few as good, none better. I was blessed to spend time with Tony, and I'm grateful for the lessons, and the friendship.

I remember seeing him do the Linking Pins for the first time. I had known him for a while by then. Still, he fooled me so badly I thought he was, well, I didn't know what I thought! I knew the Andrus stuff, I knew Piff Paff Poof, I knew all kinds of things with Pins, but not this! And I thought I knew Tony. But again he fooled me. No matter what you read, no matter how well you knew him, if Tony could move your mind just an inch off center, then he had you! And he could ALWAYS move your mind that inch! At least he could always do it to me...

It would be nice to do a website with performance-only video of Tony. I would give up the footage I have, if someone could do the site. It would be a fitting memorial to the man - one of the geniuses of close-up magic, and one that he deserves. More importantly, I think, it would benefit SO many modern magicians, to see a master do the material you can only read now. It is impossible to visualize Tony's work from the written word. You really have to see it to fully appreciate it.

The Han Pien Chien is an example. I think the way Tony did it is an abomination. The original, in the air, method is far superior in terms of technique. But that is irrelevant when it come to the performance. With the Slydini handling his method comes alive. But you HAVE to see it to really understand it. It is just that simple...

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Wow. I would love to watch all those Slydini performances. If you ever make them public, please let me know.

Does anyone know more about Leon Nathanson, M.D., who wrote Slydini Encores? I am interested because he was a practicing general surgeon (from the bio on the cover) who only developed an interest in magic later in life, after seeing Slydini perform. I am also a practicing general surgeon who started getting into magic, mostly coins, a couple of years ago at the age of 36, probably about the same time Nathanson did. I would love to contact Dr. Nathanson, if he is still alive.
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Slydini performed at my Bar Mitzvah back in 1974. It was a surprise gift from my parents, and what a surprise! The performance (all of his classic repertoire) was video taped, and we recently had the badly water damaged reels burned onto a DVD. Much of his performance was salvaged, but the camera angle was just awful. As a matter of fact, it could be used as a lapping demo, because the camera was in exactly the wrong place!
All these years later, it's wonderful watch, and be able to hear him say "You know why you don't see? You don't watch!"
He was the greatest.
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