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magicsam Regular user 117 Posts |
Hi,
I have recently ordered the James Riser 'Ultimate Salt Gimmick', and I was interested in the history and origins of this effect. I have read in articles that Roy Benson and Fred Kaps greatly improved this trick, but I am unable to find what of it they actually improved. Does anyone know the history and origins of this trick, as well as the adaptations/improvements of the handling throughout the years? Thanks for the help! Sam Clarke |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
The trick has quite a history. See how far google gets you and then maybe we can fill in some of the blanks. Seems odd to start with such a finely made piece of apparatus instead of just one of the basic routines (many offered from long ago) but perhaps that is a good place to start anyway.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
They contributed PRESENTATION -- the single most important part.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Ross Bertram had a lot to do with it. Look in The Magic and Methods of Ross Bertram for more information.
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Sorry about the eye Pete. Did you get the wooden leg to go with it?
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
That's fixed, now look!
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
I guess than ran out of parts and only had two right hand parts left.
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Randy Sager Elite user 409 Posts |
I could be incorrect but to My knowledge, Roy Benson was the first one to have the stream of salt pour from the bottom of his fist rather then turning the hand over. I think the way it was originaly done was the hand was turned so the thmb side of the hand would be towards the floor and the salt would then pour out that way.
To me the way Benson and Kaps did it looks more natural. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Dr. Zola had a rubber TT with a slit in it. Squeeze it and salt came out from below the fist. Too small tho...
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Bertram also had it pour out of the bottom of his fist.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Would that be Charles or Ross Bertram?
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Ross. See my earlier post.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
There is a great act coming to the Magic Castle awards show that has a continuous salt pour (well it is sand) that goes for about 10-15 Minutes. It involves two surfer dudes and they literally wind up with about a foot deep of sand filling almost the whole stage.
They had some tech problems last year at the WMS, but I thought those aside, the act was awesome.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Pete:
We do that one in Texas all the time. No gimmicks. If you drive about 40 miles east of El Paso, you will see where I have been rehearsing it. It's called the Chihuahuan Desert. This is the one version of the pour that the wind actually helps. I used to practice up around Alamosa Colorado, but I had to give up, the dunes got too large.
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patrick flanagan Inner circle lisle, illinois 1045 Posts |
Can someone help me.......i'm trying to get in touch with james riser to see when he will have more gimmicks for the salt pour available. I went to his website and tried to email him, but something about having to sign into microsoft passport prevents me. I don't know about this microsoft passport. Does anyone have an email address or phone number where I could reach mr. riser. or can someone tell me how I get into this microsoft passport. thanks
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RiserMagic Veteran user 361 Posts |
Patrick;
I'll be spinning a small run of my Ultimate Salt Gimmicks the first half of February. I was not aware of any "passport" requirements. It might be on your end. It's not part of my web site. Everyone else (plus every spammer in the world) seems to get through OK. try: jriser@jamesriser.com or jriser@mindspring.com Jim |
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joespc New user 54 Posts |
Try to find the book "Texan Trickster" (by John Morhing) for a routine and tips on presenting this effect.
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R Don Regular user West Coast 197 Posts |
Years ago they just sent you a medicine vial. The late John Pomeroy used to make a fancy Cellini type device
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tabman Inner circle USA 5946 Posts |
Well, you can all credit Paul Kozak with helping to repolularize the trick whether you buy his gimmick or not. It will become a required trick like the linking rings. The audience always asks if you can do that trick where the rings link and unlink. Now it will be, "but can you do that trick where salt comes out of Kozak The Great's hand???" Kaps and Kozak!!!!
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thelestat New user Vegas 48 Posts |
Quote: Hey Pete on that note I'm looking for the Danny Korem salt bowl. I had one when I was a kid and did not realize what I had until after I sold it....any one? Beuler, beuler any one Beuler.Dimmare
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