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magicsam
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Hi,

I have recently ordered the James Riser 'Ultimate Salt Gimmick', and I was interested in the history and origins of this effect.

I have read in articles that Roy Benson and Fred Kaps greatly improved this trick, but I am unable to find what of it they actually improved.

Does anyone know the history and origins of this trick, as well as the adaptations/improvements of the handling throughout the years?


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for the help!

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The trick has quite a history. See how far google gets you and then maybe we can fill in some of the blanks. Seems odd to start with such a finely made piece of apparatus instead of just one of the basic routines (many offered from long ago) but perhaps that is a good place to start anyway.
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Ross Bertram had a lot to do with it. Look in The Magic and Methods of Ross Bertram for more information.
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Sorry about the eye Pete. Did you get the wooden leg to go with it?
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That's fixed, now look!
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I guess than ran out of parts and only had two right hand parts left.
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I could be incorrect but to My knowledge, Roy Benson was the first one to have the stream of salt pour from the bottom of his fist rather then turning the hand over. I think the way it was originaly done was the hand was turned so the thmb side of the hand would be towards the floor and the salt would then pour out that way.

To me the way Benson and Kaps did it looks more natural.
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Dr. Zola had a rubber TT with a slit in it. Squeeze it and salt came out from below the fist. Too small tho...
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Bertram also had it pour out of the bottom of his fist.
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Would that be Charles or Ross Bertram?
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Ross. See my earlier post.
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There is a great act coming to the Magic Castle awards show that has a continuous salt pour (well it is sand) that goes for about 10-15 Minutes. It involves two surfer dudes and they literally wind up with about a foot deep of sand filling almost the whole stage.

They had some tech problems last year at the WMS, but I thought those aside, the act was awesome.
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Pete:

We do that one in Texas all the time. No gimmicks. If you drive about 40 miles east of El Paso, you will see where I have been rehearsing it. It's called the Chihuahuan Desert.

This is the one version of the pour that the wind actually helps. I used to practice up around Alamosa Colorado, but I had to give up, the dunes got too large.
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Can someone help me.......i'm trying to get in touch with james riser to see when he will have more gimmicks for the salt pour available. I went to his website and tried to email him, but something about having to sign into microsoft passport prevents me. I don't know about this microsoft passport. Does anyone have an email address or phone number where I could reach mr. riser. or can someone tell me how I get into this microsoft passport. thanks
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Patrick;
I'll be spinning a small run of my Ultimate Salt Gimmicks the first half of February.

I was not aware of any "passport" requirements. It might be on your end. It's not part of my web site. Everyone else (plus every spammer in the world) seems to get through OK.

try:
jriser@jamesriser.com
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jriser@mindspring.com

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Try to find the book "Texan Trickster" (by John Morhing) for a routine and tips on presenting this effect.
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Years ago they just sent you a medicine vial. The late John Pomeroy used to make a fancy Cellini type device
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Well, you can all credit Paul Kozak with helping to repolularize the trick whether you buy his gimmick or not. It will become a required trick like the linking rings. The audience always asks if you can do that trick where the rings link and unlink. Now it will be, "but can you do that trick where salt comes out of Kozak The Great's hand???" Kaps and Kozak!!!!

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On 2005-01-06 15:43, Pete Biro wrote:
They contributed PRESENTATION -- the single most important part.
Hey Pete on that note I'm looking for the Danny Korem salt bowl. I had one when I was a kid and did not realize what I had until after I sold it....any one? Beuler, beuler any one Beuler.Dimmare
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