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imagique
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Not addressed in the Paul Osborne plans...

What material for covering the panels? Not pattern or design, but which weave, material, etc.?

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Jimmy
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There is no need for 'give' in the fabric so a strong canvas, which can be primed and painted to your own design, is a good choice to stand up to bit of punishment.
Alternatively a double layer of matt laminate (back to back) will give years of service for little extra outlay and is soooo easy to keep looking fresh. (Matt to avoid unwanted glare from lights). You can apply decal to it if you want to add pattern or design.
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I, too, have been considering either purchasing this or having someone build this for me. All this input has most definitely been food for thought and very helpful.

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I just wasted about $15 trying to make the covers. I sew okay, but I think that I will try making the panels with cotton canvas, applying Gesso while laying perfectly flat, and then glued to the wood frame. Then, I'll apply Gesso to the other side.I'm going to go back and paint the borders black, leaving the back side of the panels coverless. I'll double side the extra gimmick panels.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe that Gesso is the emulsified acrylic polymer that is used to make painting canvas surfaces.

It's hard to get the fabric flat, so I'm going to do the gesso in several steps to make sure that it stays hard and flat.

Let me know if you have any hints out there. I'll let you know how it goes.

Wow! I just finished putting the screens together, unbordered, undecorated.

Wow! If you do this alone, the 5 panel handling is a must! The handling actually negates any need for magnets, latches, etc.

I feel that 6 panels would be way too much harder to handle, unnecessarily.

So far, without putting the back side fabric on the flipper panels, the think is 3 9/16" thick.

Thrilled!

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On 2005-02-06 00:47, imagique wrote:

It's hard to get the fabric flat, so I'm going to do the gesso in several steps to make sure that it stays hard and flat.



Have you tried starching the fabric before applying the gesso? Arco laundry starch works pretty well...
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I was afraid that starch might affect the absorption of the Gesso into the fabric.

I am ironing the fabric first, and it seems to be doing pretty well.

I'm already concerned that the poly/cotton blend might not do as well as 100% cotton. However, the longer that I'm around these panels, I'm thinking that I'm on the right track. They look fantastic!

Have you personally tried the starch with this application, or are you just throwing that out there?

Either way, it's a good idea... I'd like to hear about any experience with this, but I'm not expecting much, since I'm just learning about Gesso
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Hey guys-
I am a teenage magician with limited building experience and tools. I would like to add a stage illusion to my repitoire, but without spending a lot on building supplies, and not having to have much building skill. Do you guys think I would be over my head building a bryce's screen, or would I be able to handle it? Also, after reading the many posts on this topic, I saw people talked of building the screen out of other materials than wood, such as plastic sign material or cardboard. Has anyone ever actually built a bryce's screen out of one of these cheaper, easier-to-work-with materials, or has this just been talked about. The bryce's screen certainly sounds like a neat illusion! Any answers would be great! Thanks!

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Hi Michael,

I'm finding this one pretty tough to make look good, and I'm pretty resourceful.

You might try a set of stocks for an escape or a sub trunk first.

Although this one might seem easy, to do it right takes a lot of trial and error.

If you do want to try, get the plans, and check with this forum. Hopefully there has been a lot of help here already.

Jimmy
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Michael,

If you have the Osborne plans, the construction of the screens will not be difficult. However, you will still need some basic construction skills and some very good sewing skills. I would not use cardboard or any such substitute since your panels may warp over time if you do so.

Before you try to build this, however, ask yourself WHY you want to include a stage effect into your repertoire. Do you do a lot of stage shows? Will it fit into your existing act? I only say this because you don't want to invest the time and effort into building an illusion if you are not going to be actively using it.

Bryce's screen is a stage effect. Unless you are going to perform on stage, the effect will sit in your closet and collect dust.
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You may also want to consider how you will transport this thing.
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On 2005-02-08 18:25, imagique wrote:

Have you personally tried the starch with this application, or are you just throwing that out there? Either way, it's a good idea...


Just throwing it out there..... might be worth doing a test on a small 1'x1' frame.
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Imagique, magicman, and MikeDes:
Thank you all very much for suggestions and ideas. I really appreciate your input, and I have realized that a bryce's screen may not be the right "first" stage illusion for me to try and build. Instead, I have thought about making a some escape stocks, like the stocks of zanzibar, or maybe even a giant squared circle from which I could produce a girl. A large square circle seems like it would be easy enough, and I may even be able to make the outer square out of something like foam board or heavy cardboard, which would be easy to work with. As for magicman's question on why I want to build a stage effect--it is mainly just for a hobby and fun, and I am planning on putting together a small stage show soon, so I want to add some nice effects to my repitoire. Thank you all for your great suggestions!

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On 2005-02-02 04:37, David Charvet wrote:
FYI - It's called "Bryce's Screen" because it was invented by Bryce Chambers, a Seattle magician who sold the idea to Percy Abbott in the 40's. I remember meeting Bryce when I was a teenager growing up in Seattle. A nice guy. I don't believe he's still around.


Actually Mr. Chambers is quite alive and kicking and is a regular attendee at the Lynnwood Magic Ring meetings. I saw him last night and someone had told him about this thread on the Café. He was interested in seeing it so I will have to print this out to show him as he doesn't own a computer.
He drew out the secret to his infamous screen on a napkin so we could see how it worked. It's a very clever idea.
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PM me for the link to see my online video of the finished 5 panel Bryce screen (free video of my wife, no extra charge!)

Jimmy
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Hi Jimmy,

great to see a project finished... and luv the "no extra charge"!
imagique
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Well... no extra charge isn't exactly true...

Somewhere down the line, she'll make me pay!

JF
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And worth every cent!
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How much would it cost to build?
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I have it as well..It's a nice small quick production in my opinion. Not bad for a small show with limited space or assistants.
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Might someone know where on-line I might be able to find a performance video of "Bryce's Screen"? "Imagique" was kind enough to give me a link to his website to see the illusion in action. (Thank you, Jimmy). But alas, I am an Apple/Mac user and to view his clip I needed to have Window's Media. I would appreciate anyone who could turn me onto a clip that can be viewed with Quicktime or Real Player. Likewise, I would like to see a still or two of the finished product. Thanks.
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