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mrsmiles
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Another tip - whether you are repeating the trick the same night or a week later, ask the spectators who've seen it before not to say what happens to everyone else at the climax of the trick (eg 'the card appeared in ashes on his arm')... explain that this is because its like knowing the punchline to a joke... the joke/trick are better enjoyed if you don't know what's coming.
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The only time I repeat a trick is with children. When they say do it again, they are not trying to figure it out. They just want to be amazed again. THe same principle applies to their tv viewing habits. Any parent will tell you that little bobby has seen the movie "Cars" 200 times. They just like repetition. It makes them feel safe.
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I nearly spit out my coffee when I read the "Cars" thing. I just got done spending 20 minutes looking for my 2 year olds "Lightning Mcqueen" car.
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First, when someone asks you to do it again - take the complement - you did fool them! Then the answer as to repeat a trick or not is usually dependent upon the trick - any "multiple out" trick is out of the question. Many are repeatable without any real damage. I do agree with the above posters - either let some time elapse or do the trick using a different method.
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Luckily, there are Magic routines that can be repeated more than once without any problem. For example, The Invisible Deck. However, if you get someone asking to do that again and it is not repeatable, just tell them sure, but let me show you this first and do something different. If some one says can you show that to my friend or Relative, if it is repeatable say yes. If not, then give the previous answer. This works for me. Cheers!
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When you go to see a rock band, there is always an encore at the end. We expect it. It's become a ritual. Do you think the band are all backstage scratching their heads, trying to figure out what to play? Of course not! They have already planned for it. In fact very often they will hold back some of their best material.
My advice, would be to think the same way - always expect to be asked to do another one.
If someone wants you to show the same trick to someone else, take it as a compliment - it's because they are really impressed (not the same thing as asking you to do it again for themselves). BUT you don't have to do the same effect twice - it's your decision. So you could show their friend something else (maybe similar). Because you don't really want the original person to see it again (they will inevitably notice details you don't wan't them to).
I think this is how professional "table hoppers" work. They have several short "sets", so they can circulate never obviously repeating the same tricks.

Ultimately I think the crucial thing is to always perform on your own terms. Keep 'em wanting more. And don't risk exposure. I think they will appreciate you more.
I hope this helps!
(I am a hobbyist who spends much more time learning & practicing than performing at the moment.)
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I always liked the approach:

“Do it again, why?
If it wasn’t magic I’ll do something else.
If it was magic for you, I can do something better.”
the Godfather (Vinnie)

which is why I disagree with the rock band analogy above. In a show, my object is to have my audience have a real experience of magic.
That is orchestrated with some effects more powerful than others, some providing acquitment for others,
and some seemingly in response to the audience enthusiasm. Often my routines have several branching options of later effects
based on what I learn of this audience along the way. So there is no possibility of a "encore."

When table hopping it is different. You may do another effect based on the group's appreciation of magic as much as any request.
But then I would never do the same or similar effect. If they want more, the get more. A repeat is never "more."

A third case is where the guy paying the bill (or his wife) request a certain magic effect. Then you might agree, but use a different Sleight or timing for the "remembered effect."

For me, the "more" they want and get is stronger magic. Any repeat is going the wrong direction. (so is doing "cover" tricks)
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst

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I simply state - "the first time you're impressed; the second time you're just trying to figure out how it's done" and I move on to something else
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The best advice I've been given on this point was to respond as though they are asking for more magic and show them another, different trick. This usually takes care of the "do it again" because if you do a few, the crowd is entertained. They may have moved on from their hang up on that initial trick (unless you just completely blew their minds and they can't get over it) and after spending a few more extra minutes with them, you can move on gracefully because you have done more with them. At some point they recognize it's rude to ask for more when you have already given several more minutes worth of presentation per their prompting.
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"...the Magicians Union, local # 666, only permits me to perform a miracle like this once every 24 hours...".

With a smile, of course. Smile

Julie
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“Do it again, why?
If it wasn’t magic I’ll do something else.
If it was magic for you, I can do something better.”
the Godfather
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst

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'Do it again - do a trick(again)' - I've found when I ask for a 'coin' to do a 'trick' - then do the trick, I put the coin in MY pocket. They ask why-or for it. Then I tell them, 'this is how I support my Family' - usually they ask no more. LOL Ralph
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Quote:
On Jul 13, 2021, Julie wrote:
"...the Magicians Union, local # 666, only permits me to perform a miracle like this once every 24 hours...".

With a smile, of course. Smile

Julie


I also agree with most of the other magacians here regarding the "rinse and repeat" request. There are however exceptions, I have no reservations in repeating some close-up effects like the Crazy Man's Handcuffs. I'm sure there are other effects that fall into this category.
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Do it again?
I would love to but I can only do it once in a row.
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What I usually say is “that would be boring. I already did that. Let me show you something else.” If someone is really pushy about it I just say “a magician never repeats the same trick” and they get the point.
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