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sbays
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Would like to know from those who have actually bought this ... any buyers remorse? Do you really feel this was worth the price you paid for it? I ask because I am considering buying it, but would like some feedback from those who already have. Is it really all that superior to all the rest?
"Opportunity may only knock once, but temptation leans on the doorbell."
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I've got it; however the only reason I bought it was due to the selling price £150.00,which was cheap.

The book test, as described in "Mentalism Incorporated" is excellent. However.

The majority of the time when I do a word/book test, for some reason I tend to perform those "self made" book tests that I've made myself.

I would suggest that if you perform on a regular basis, then the investment is a good one.
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With so many methods out there to choose from the MOAB does seem a rather costly route. The lasting impression upon the audience is what counts and this is achieved through presentation and premise. The books themselves should only play a secondary role in support of the premise. I personally like the book test by Ty Kraylin form Syzygz using a nmemonic method and any book. Also check out The Trllis Caper by Leo Boudreau for a similar approach.
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Moabt is worth twice the price. its the only test I use.
Ken Dyne
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Hi, I am contemplating getting this, could seone tell me the advantages over other booktests, for example Ultimate Flashback?

Thanks in advance.

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Hello,

The selling point of "Mother Of All Book Test(MOAB)" is this:

1.The book is ordinary looking, has no page repetition, and completely examinable.
2.The book is a hard cover edition, so if you hope you can replace the dust jacket.
3.You don't hold the book. A spectator freely handle the book. You don't need page # infomation. That means a spectator opens any page.

Interestingly Ultimate Flashback(UF) already has a partial MOAB feature. For example in UF a spectator looks at a second paragraph and choose any word in the paragraph. And a mentalist divines the word. If you have UF, you know what I am saying.

MOAB itself is a stand alone effect, but can be combined with any book tests.

Have a good book test.
david_a_whitehead
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Stay away from this one...
Ken Dyne
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Jay, thanks for that. Would people say that it is still worth getting MOAB if I already use Ultimate? If MOAB is as you describe then ultimate is much more diverse, is it not? And of course Final (the new one) further still, and cheaper?

david_a_whitehead, why you say that?


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david_a_whitehead
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Because I want it for myself. I'm not sure why these threads pop up in the first place. Haven't all the pros said time and time again that nothing is as good as the Mother? It is the best. There is no comparison. Now don't buy it.
Mr Mindman
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Does anyone know if any UK dealers cary this book?

cheers
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On 2005-01-10 10:13, Kennedy wrote:
Would people say that it is still worth getting MOAB if I already use Ultimate?


Hi Kennedy,
In my opinion, absolutely worth it.
In a general opinion, if you like the second paragraph test in UF, it is worth it. If you don't like the second paragraph test, it is not worth it.

In MOAB a mentalist hand a book to a spectator(During the test you can wear a blind fold though it's not necessary). He opens any page. He silently choose a word in the page(no writing it down : just in his mind). The procedure of word selection is the same as the second paragraph test's in UF. A mentalist divines the word. Sounds(Looks) real thing.

The principle is the same for both. In UF you are limited to the second paragraph. In MOAB you can do the test with one whole book.

Happy testing.
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Also worth adding lots of subtleties with MOABT, and would recommend Mothers Home Companion booklet which Richard Busch released which takes it to another level. I agree with David though - don't buy it.
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Totally worth it. I used it all the time when doing stage hypnotism shows as an opener. I also remember seeing a campus performer of the year (Craig Karges, I think), using this in a mentalism show I went to see him do.

It's very expensive for dilletantes but if you are performing it is totally worth it. I had both versions and would give them a totally free choice of either book, nice guy that I am.

It's simple and direct...performed even halfway competently it looks like real mind reading and gets gasps.
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I have been very pleased with this purchase...and second the opinion that the addition of Richard Busch's Mother's Home Companion greatly enhances your thinking about how to use this book test.

Recently I have been disappointed with a couple of major purchases but this is great and seems to suit me well. That may be a key. Some effects work for a person and fit into their act and some do not. I had a strong attraction to book tests and, after experimenting with a much cheaper alternative, I felt ready for this.
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Thanks for al the replies guys, much appreciated,

Take it easy

Kennedy
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Loz
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In the book test thread someone mentioned the Millenium book test by Daniel Rhod (now unavailable). Does anyone who owns MOABT also own the Daniel Rhod one? The descriptions sound identical - are the modus operandi the same?
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Rhod's book test is a direct rip-off of The Mother albeit in French with different words and a different story. It was produced without the permission of Mr. Karmilovich who subsequently came to a financial agreement with Mr. Rhod. Unfortunately, Mr. Rhod only fulfilled HALF of that agreement and still owes Mr. Karmilovich a substantial sum.

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Ahhh many thanks for the clarification Thom. Phew - that's one less method to worry about!
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I had it demo'ed in a Magic Shop and caught on to the method immediately. But, then, I have some knowledge of booktest methods. My wife was flummoxed..and still is...even after I prodded her with "Why on earth would he want to know what letter it starts with?"
Steve Dela
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Oh My God, surely the guy that demoed it didn't just ask for the first letter of the word! if so, he shouldn't be using this test. Not very subtle!

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