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Kondini Inner circle 3609 Posts |
Just to make sure we all know each other would FredSaid be kind enough to come out of the closet>>>> I hate dealing with enigma`s.
I agree that our market is very limited and have yet to meet any dealer who has become rich from thier labours,,,,that is all the more reason to look after the few who do cater for us. Regarding the result that we may become cloned if we use the same restraints,,,I feel that the pro, will always develope on their own, without influence of other pro`s,,,,well maybe pinch a gag or three but respect among pro`s (Those who really work this gag for a living) Is usual, and I find still exists today. Ken. |
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FredSaid New user 12 Posts |
Come out of the closet? Do you mean my real name? It is Fred Said.
Sorry for confusing you so much. Fred. |
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Kondini Inner circle 3609 Posts |
Sorry, no offence,,,,my real name is Kon Dini.
My other hobbies are knitting fog. |
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
It's amazing how small of a profile some people have.
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RickSilmser Special user 869 Posts |
Too funny, Don...some times you just kill me. Your sence of humor is simple and innocent. Well done my friend.
~Rick~ |
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FredSaid New user 12 Posts |
I can't help if my parents chose a stupid name for me. My name is Frederick Said. If you don't like it go cry on someone elses shoulder.
So Donster, pardon me for going directly to the post and not including all my personal contact information on my profile. I am now quite happy that I haven't because I don't need all this un-called for hostility from people I just 'met'. Thank you to those who responded to my original topic. I no longer feel the need to be part of a community that includes such FINE individuals as Kondini and Rick Silmser. Thanks so much guys...you are what make being an EA embarrassing. Fred |
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
Fred there have been a lot of trouble with previous people stating stuff with no information on their profiles. this might be why people are asking you questions.
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Daniel Santos Special user 562 Posts |
Sorry to just jump in, but back a few posts....where it says "Just to make sure we all know each other would FredSaid be kind enough to come out of the closet", did anybody else think DIFFERENTLY of this? lol Only kidding.
As for the whole straight jacket thing....I'm sorry I can't help out there, but I haven't really been into this art for a long enough time... Daniel Santos |
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
Daniel its ok. your not jumping in but was Fred mainly reading then wanting to join in on us he is welcome to. maybe he was scared to post at first because of all the bickering here. it helps if ones profile gives some information about the person. it helps to giva a idea of what the persons interests are.
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Kondini Inner circle 3609 Posts |
If we all come up front then I see no problem,,,,I personaly have nothing to hide or be scared of,,,,,so I wonder why Fred has ran away surely he could stand his ground and enlighten us all as to his interests !
Or is it that the real Fred is just another enigma,or maybe a voice from the past has reappeared here with yet again another name !! whichever way you look at it he was never an ea cos to be an ea the first thing you require is a sense of humour, the second is a couple of ounces of bottle ! Come back Fred, Regarding makeing everything embarrassing,,,,,,who is the one to do the runner and why????? |
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
Yes Fred there are to many people goofing around with Names. there is a frederic said in nc. but we need to know you better so we can become your friends fill out the profile or tell us a little about yourself no need to disappear on us.
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Riley Special user Swansea UK 955 Posts |
Ah . . the sparks are flying on the board early this year!
Hey, Ken, I didn't know you could knit fog ! ! If I send you some steel wool would you knit a Steel SJ for me ??? |
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
I'm thinking maybe this guy was legit on his first and last name. you have to almost feel sorry because of all the teasing that might of happened to him thru out his life.
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CARNEGIE Loyal user 267 Posts |
"I no longer feel the need to be part of a community that includes such FINE individuals as Kondini and Rick Silmser. Thanks so much guys...you are what make being an EA embarrassing"
Actually, I would say that Rick and Kondini are two examples of why being an Escape Artist is cool. |
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Kondini Inner circle 3609 Posts |
Looks like it`s my turn in the barrell,,,,,didn`t want to upset anyone here, there are other people that do that without my help, just get a little paranoid when another pops up out of nowhere with no info on their personal and with people having multiple lables,,,well you get the drift.
Riley,,,,,it was meant to be a joke,,,,you know something like comedy,,,,,a sort of ha ha ha thing,,,,,I give up. OK what size chest are you ???? |
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
Kondini I understand what you were trying to do. I'm thinking maybe Riley was trying to make a Joke to
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CARNEGIE Loyal user 267 Posts |
I for one would welcome someone who offered a quality product that was different For ages, milk cans, water torture cells, handcuffs, straightjackets, pillarys and handcuffs were the acts of pretty much every escape artist. There may have been slight variation. Though the SSJ dates back many years, I don't think modern audiences are familiar with it, in fact, I know they are not.
I can see where a stainless steel jacket would have a little more visual impact over one that wasn't shiney and reflective. But it all boils down to what you are looking for. I actually have a design for a SSJ that is totally different from both of these. The look is nothing like either Ian's jacket or the one made by Richard Sherry. I've not had it built yet, so I will continue using the jacket I have because frankly, it gets a killer responce from the audience. My point is that at least the SSJ is different from what is usually presented. And yes, as more and more of them become available to performers, the novelty may eventually wear off. But unless they became a mainstream magic item available to any magician, I don't see that happening. Escapists are a relatively small group compared to general magicians. And from what I've seen, most magicians have difficulty understanding how to present escapes effectively. Not all magicians, but a lot of them. And one more thought. Considering how FEW makers of quality escape items there are, I would rather encourage them than discourage them. Go Ian, Go Richard!!! Keep up the great work. |
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Kondini Inner circle 3609 Posts |
Right on, the SSJ is a real crowd pleaser and that`s all that matter`s.
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
Very true and it don't matter who makes it or manufactures it.
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
I've just read this whole thread and am totally confused. All I got was Fred said Ian drank sherry and tried to knit a steel strait jacket in the fog for Riley.
Surely that's not right... is it? Roslyn
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